Good points, and if the Congress and Senate members, who swore to protect and defend the Constitution, ignore the 14th amendment, Trump will indeed be illegitimate, and every thing he does could be challenged in a court of law. And being illegitimate, the "immunity" provided by the Supreme Court should not apply.
The SC gave Voldemoron what amounts to blanket immunity. I would like to know WTF the SC was thinking and how this isn't treason. There are so many things on so many levels wrong with this ruling. Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, etc should be held accountable.
I am of the opinion that he is basically the Devil's child & the sooner he is gone from this planet the better ! No doubt this man will live to be 105 just to spite us all !
I don’t know about the devil, but statistically speaking, I suspect that there are significant chances that there might be a significant acute vascular incident. Which artery, is anyone’s guess. Remember when he was hospitalized urgently during his first term, that was kept a secret. His medical file is a tightly guarded secret. We should be ready for president Vance!
It seems to me that it would be possible to ge 20% of the house and senate to refuse to certify the electoral count on Jan 6. The question is, whether or not they have the cojones to do that. I hope they do object. Hopefully that will land us with a Harris presidency.
Never going to happen—Congress is too timid and too corrupt to give corruption and incompetence any notice. Besides, precedence is noted only when it benefits.
This illegal presidency must be stopped and it CAN still be done. The reports from Jessica Denson and the #14thNow folks who lobbied electeds from both sides of the aisle on Friday said far more were open to this than they expected. Details on taking action below, but first, key quotes from speech:
"Enforcing the 14th Amendment against an insurrectionist is the most democratic position a lawmaker could take. It is not a violation of the peaceful transfer of power. It is in defense of the peaceful transfer of power."
"We are not disrespecting an election by invoking the Constitution. The founders and the drafters of Section 3 were well aware that majorities...may elect insurrectionists and they put [Section 3] in place in spite of that. It is a backstop, it is a Constitutional safeguard, a legal necessity to save our Republic, even when we do not save ourselves."
These quotes are part of a stirring 25-minute speech by Jessica Denson in front of the Lincoln memorial yesterday (viewable at YouTube link below). Denson was the first to take on Trump in 2017-18 in an "unwinnable" class-action lawsuit in which she prevailed. She also just so happens to be a Christian and former Republican, and, as such, was even able to find agreement with some GOP lawmakers she met with this week during her visit to Capitol Hill.
PLEASE, for the sake of saving our country from an illegal presidency and full descent into fascism and oligarchy, pick up your phone first thing Monday morning, January 6. Call the Congressional Switchboard at 202-224-3121 to, in turn, reach your Senator and Representative(s). Demand that they uphold their oath to the Constitution and object to the certification of adjudicated, oath-breaking insurrectionist Donald J. Trump as REQUIRED by Section 3 of the 14th amendment.
NOTE: It will only take 87 Representatives and 27 Senators to bring this to a vote and a mere simple majority is required to pass it. It remains doable if enough of us urge our elected officials to honor their oath to the Constitution and they find the courage to act.
You need to tell us where to sign - if we can't go to Washington & physically do something to stop his inauguration at least if enough of us signed something it might get into the news & wake a few people up. We all know the SC is a total waste of time now - nobody has any confidence in the Repubs on that court ! They now know it & are getting annoyed - serve them right - their bias is so obvious !
The phone #s to call first thing tomorrow a.m. and short statement you can use are in my post above. Time is of the essence and bombarding their offices with calls is what Denson said would be most helpful at the last minute. You could also send an emai and find them via the following links:
This is exactly right, it seems to me—outrage isn’t enough, especially by people who can afford it, but not enough to actually do anything at all. The 2024 election proves it—democracy was on the line and millions stayed home. Too late to resist now?
Yes, Trump will be an illegitimate president. However, no one is going to do anything about it. The Democrats are weak and spineless, and they won't stand up to do what is right. We already know that the Republicans are greedy, power hungry traitors who will kowtow to Trump every time, so nothing is going to happen. Trump will take office, he will do whatever the hell he wants to do, and no one is going to stop him. This is what our democracy has become: a joke and a laughing stock. Our Constitution is now worthless and unenforceable. I weep for my country.
Our country died on November 5 and will be buried on January 20. Voldemoron will probably try to change the name of this country to the United States of Trump, put his face on Mt Rushmore, and have his face put on our currency.
People should refuse to call him president. Call him Fake President. Call Harris President Harris. Use Trumps tactic of repetition against him. The truth is trump is not eligible to be president and we should stick to that truth.
When the media, the courts and Congress do not care about the Constitution it makes it very hard for those of us who do to do anything effective. Perhaps we can put pressure on mainstream media to let them know we know it is a violation of the Constitution for hm to be president and that we will not/do not support them since they do not support the Constitution..won't make any difference in anything, but at least they will know why some subscribers/viewers left. And every Democrat should refer to trump as in illegitimate president and quote that he is a convicted felon and quote the part of the Constitution that says a convicted felon cannot be president every time they say anything about trump or the administration policies...again, won't matter but at least they would be standing up for the Constitution and the rule of law.
What can we really do about it? He's going to get sworn in and move into the White House. Congress isn't going to do anything. We're not going to have a disgusting insurrection. That's not who we are. We're going to suck it up and take it one thing, one day at a time. We'll stand strong when/where we can and push back when/where we can. The general media is not going to help. If anything, they will just embolden him and his circle. We're in a bad place and time and we will link arms and do battle where we can. It's all sad but true. This is our unfortunate reality.
Would that it were. So weary of everyone doing the exact wrong thing. Paraphrasing, no matter the issue or the potential for failure, the pressing need for Dems to show up and throw down will be once again postponed indefinitely.
Great points. I have been mentioning on BlueSky and Substack that Dems need to pound and hound the media about the rapey felon’s criminal record relentlessly and remind voters his horrible policies that blew up the deficit by 25% more than any administration in history. His time in the spotlight to have to defend himself.
Don't forget that Trump was impeached twice, each time a valid and perfect method of disqualification that failed due to political corruption. Therefore, an attempt to disqualify based on A14/3 won't succeed. But we must make the statement. It must be part of the record for a future time when fascists will be impeached, prosecuted, incarcerated, and executed according to the law. Frankly, I'd love to see the Pentagon court-martial the criminal "commander in chief" and apply military law to crimes of treason or other capital crime under military jurisdiction. (I know, the president is the civilian head of the military, but we can dream, can't we? Maybe Trump will don a dictator's military uniform and qualify for court-martial as Generalissimo).
I will call both of my Senators and my Representative to ask them to object to certification of the EC votes for the felon on the grounds of the 14th Amendment, section 3.
Italy’s PM is working hard to legalize chemical castration for violent sex offenders. Trump met with her at Maralago this week. No word if they discussed how many rapes he is guilty of or how androgen-blocking hormones would interact with his current use of ozempic. Congress is cool with rapists - as long as the victims are female.
Good points, and if the Congress and Senate members, who swore to protect and defend the Constitution, ignore the 14th amendment, Trump will indeed be illegitimate, and every thing he does could be challenged in a court of law. And being illegitimate, the "immunity" provided by the Supreme Court should not apply.
This is the best news I’ve heard through out the crisis. Believe I’m labeling him illegitimate everywhere.
The SC gave Voldemoron what amounts to blanket immunity. I would like to know WTF the SC was thinking and how this isn't treason. There are so many things on so many levels wrong with this ruling. Roberts, Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh, etc should be held accountable.
Hear Hear
When the hell with this con job NOT get away with everything, when. ! ! ! ! !
I am of the opinion that he is basically the Devil's child & the sooner he is gone from this planet the better ! No doubt this man will live to be 105 just to spite us all !
I keep hoping that the massive coronary that has got to be in his future happens very soon 🤞
We should all send massive quantities of Big Macs to the WH after Jan 20. Spanky can’t refuse free hamberders!
His BP will skyrocket
I don’t know about the devil, but statistically speaking, I suspect that there are significant chances that there might be a significant acute vascular incident. Which artery, is anyone’s guess. Remember when he was hospitalized urgently during his first term, that was kept a secret. His medical file is a tightly guarded secret. We should be ready for president Vance!
🤮
When he’s burning in Hell.
It seems to me that it would be possible to ge 20% of the house and senate to refuse to certify the electoral count on Jan 6. The question is, whether or not they have the cojones to do that. I hope they do object. Hopefully that will land us with a Harris presidency.
Previous recent history have shown the hypocrite Republicans MAGATs are incapable of courage or moral character
It would have given us a Vance presidency since they won. But not one cojone was on display today.
Never going to happen—Congress is too timid and too corrupt to give corruption and incompetence any notice. Besides, precedence is noted only when it benefits.
Read the article- as I note: Who cares what Congress does. We need to do something and we can!
This illegal presidency must be stopped and it CAN still be done. The reports from Jessica Denson and the #14thNow folks who lobbied electeds from both sides of the aisle on Friday said far more were open to this than they expected. Details on taking action below, but first, key quotes from speech:
"Enforcing the 14th Amendment against an insurrectionist is the most democratic position a lawmaker could take. It is not a violation of the peaceful transfer of power. It is in defense of the peaceful transfer of power."
"We are not disrespecting an election by invoking the Constitution. The founders and the drafters of Section 3 were well aware that majorities...may elect insurrectionists and they put [Section 3] in place in spite of that. It is a backstop, it is a Constitutional safeguard, a legal necessity to save our Republic, even when we do not save ourselves."
These quotes are part of a stirring 25-minute speech by Jessica Denson in front of the Lincoln memorial yesterday (viewable at YouTube link below). Denson was the first to take on Trump in 2017-18 in an "unwinnable" class-action lawsuit in which she prevailed. She also just so happens to be a Christian and former Republican, and, as such, was even able to find agreement with some GOP lawmakers she met with this week during her visit to Capitol Hill.
PLEASE, for the sake of saving our country from an illegal presidency and full descent into fascism and oligarchy, pick up your phone first thing Monday morning, January 6. Call the Congressional Switchboard at 202-224-3121 to, in turn, reach your Senator and Representative(s). Demand that they uphold their oath to the Constitution and object to the certification of adjudicated, oath-breaking insurrectionist Donald J. Trump as REQUIRED by Section 3 of the 14th amendment.
NOTE: It will only take 87 Representatives and 27 Senators to bring this to a vote and a mere simple majority is required to pass it. It remains doable if enough of us urge our elected officials to honor their oath to the Constitution and they find the courage to act.
Learn more at https://nowmarch.org/about/
https://youtu.be/kSBOZQrHmko?si=rDrOC3mHqVqGwMei
You need to tell us where to sign - if we can't go to Washington & physically do something to stop his inauguration at least if enough of us signed something it might get into the news & wake a few people up. We all know the SC is a total waste of time now - nobody has any confidence in the Repubs on that court ! They now know it & are getting annoyed - serve them right - their bias is so obvious !
Great details on how to contact your Member of Congress available on this page
https://nowmarch.org/jan-3-day-of-action/
The phone #s to call first thing tomorrow a.m. and short statement you can use are in my post above. Time is of the essence and bombarding their offices with calls is what Denson said would be most helpful at the last minute. You could also send an emai and find them via the following links:
Contact your Representative https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Contact your Senator https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm
What can we do? Seriously. What can we do? We have no power anymore.
This is exactly right, it seems to me—outrage isn’t enough, especially by people who can afford it, but not enough to actually do anything at all. The 2024 election proves it—democracy was on the line and millions stayed home. Too late to resist now?
What? I read it.
Yes, Trump will be an illegitimate president. However, no one is going to do anything about it. The Democrats are weak and spineless, and they won't stand up to do what is right. We already know that the Republicans are greedy, power hungry traitors who will kowtow to Trump every time, so nothing is going to happen. Trump will take office, he will do whatever the hell he wants to do, and no one is going to stop him. This is what our democracy has become: a joke and a laughing stock. Our Constitution is now worthless and unenforceable. I weep for my country.
Our country died on November 5 and will be buried on January 20. Voldemoron will probably try to change the name of this country to the United States of Trump, put his face on Mt Rushmore, and have his face put on our currency.
I wish I were joking 😔
People should refuse to call him president. Call him Fake President. Call Harris President Harris. Use Trumps tactic of repetition against him. The truth is trump is not eligible to be president and we should stick to that truth.
When the media, the courts and Congress do not care about the Constitution it makes it very hard for those of us who do to do anything effective. Perhaps we can put pressure on mainstream media to let them know we know it is a violation of the Constitution for hm to be president and that we will not/do not support them since they do not support the Constitution..won't make any difference in anything, but at least they will know why some subscribers/viewers left. And every Democrat should refer to trump as in illegitimate president and quote that he is a convicted felon and quote the part of the Constitution that says a convicted felon cannot be president every time they say anything about trump or the administration policies...again, won't matter but at least they would be standing up for the Constitution and the rule of law.
But they won't. Our elected officials are worthless.
It’s like we’re allowing Al Capone and his henchmen to take the keys of government. Shameful. I’m embarrassed to be an American right now.
Once again, a reason to get our hopes up only to have nothing of consequence happen. Where are our elected Democrats? The media? Anyone?
Crickets.
What can we really do about it? He's going to get sworn in and move into the White House. Congress isn't going to do anything. We're not going to have a disgusting insurrection. That's not who we are. We're going to suck it up and take it one thing, one day at a time. We'll stand strong when/where we can and push back when/where we can. The general media is not going to help. If anything, they will just embolden him and his circle. We're in a bad place and time and we will link arms and do battle where we can. It's all sad but true. This is our unfortunate reality.
Would that it were. So weary of everyone doing the exact wrong thing. Paraphrasing, no matter the issue or the potential for failure, the pressing need for Dems to show up and throw down will be once again postponed indefinitely.
Great points. I have been mentioning on BlueSky and Substack that Dems need to pound and hound the media about the rapey felon’s criminal record relentlessly and remind voters his horrible policies that blew up the deficit by 25% more than any administration in history. His time in the spotlight to have to defend himself.
Don't forget that Trump was impeached twice, each time a valid and perfect method of disqualification that failed due to political corruption. Therefore, an attempt to disqualify based on A14/3 won't succeed. But we must make the statement. It must be part of the record for a future time when fascists will be impeached, prosecuted, incarcerated, and executed according to the law. Frankly, I'd love to see the Pentagon court-martial the criminal "commander in chief" and apply military law to crimes of treason or other capital crime under military jurisdiction. (I know, the president is the civilian head of the military, but we can dream, can't we? Maybe Trump will don a dictator's military uniform and qualify for court-martial as Generalissimo).
It’s court-martial.
Thank you. Corrected. (I did know that once upon a time . . . oh well).
I will call both of my Senators and my Representative to ask them to object to certification of the EC votes for the felon on the grounds of the 14th Amendment, section 3.
I have done this!
It wouldn't do any good for me. I live in Texas. I'm a 🔵 in an ocean of red
There's as much chance of tRump being DQed as is the sun rising in the west tomorrow morning.
Italy’s PM is working hard to legalize chemical castration for violent sex offenders. Trump met with her at Maralago this week. No word if they discussed how many rapes he is guilty of or how androgen-blocking hormones would interact with his current use of ozempic. Congress is cool with rapists - as long as the victims are female.