If I could only get my family to read this. It literally breaks my heart to know that people I grew up with will be voting for that man. I have tried for years to get them to listen to the truth about him but I gave up. They all live in a state so red that their votes won't change the results but it would change how I feel about them now. If trump wins I'm sure I'll be able to say, "told ya so" soon enough but at this point it isn't even worth it. I guess at least the media is being honest but what took so damned long? After voting has been going on for weeks, how many votes could the media have turned if they'd done their jobs all along? Personally I am sick at my stomach with the fear of that man either winning or having the house steal the election. The only thing that will save us is President Harris.
Racism and vulgarity is Trump’s closing argument. He’s got nothing else. Anyone who votes for him is equally racist and vulgar. Who knew half of the US population was ignorant, racist, vulgar and fascist?
Donald Trump’s racism and xenophobia are on full display. That’s what MAGA loves about him. That’s why his base is so steadfast. His central mandate is racism.
How about wearing this "Keep the immigrants, deport the racists" shirt in front of them? 👇
It's a pity that when (Democratic) speakers say "this is not who we are" they are wrong*. The reality is that, yes, nearly half of the people ARE misogynistic, bigoted, ahistoric, civic illiterates.
* to be charitable. Given what we've known for some time, they're lying - in a good cause, but still lying. Republicans are refreshingly honest about this: they'll admit it's who "we" (they) are. Unless they're called on it, only THEN are they "just joking".
"It's a pity that when (Democratic) speakers say "this is not who we are" they are wrong*. The reality is that, yes, nearly half of the people ARE misogynistic, bigoted, ahistoric, civic illiterates."
My view of the demographic reality is that most of US are up for grabs in the IDENTITY POLITICS sweepstakes. I was raised by survivors and refugees from nation-states that were crumbling early to mid 20th Century former empires such as the Austro-Hungarian (Magyar side, not Deutsch-German)\Slovak hillbillies of the Carpathian and Tatra Mountains respectively. That his\herstory reinforced with a very good formal education in an ethnic school system taught me to mistrust MOB dynamics and mentality along with Cultic movements.
Also, to use reason as far as it can go towards securing safety first and opportunity for advancement second. Not that I've advanced very far, but one has to keep their minds and not just their eyes on a worthy goal.
I've witnessed up close (as in a mirror) how pliable Identity formation and Cultic group dynamics can be. So the artificial artifice of impenetrability doesn't hold much water with me. I won't be escaping mob mentality by joining any mobs. A highly valued mentor was my widely read and deeply experienced high school Social Studies teacher Elliot Abusch. I forget who he attributed this quote to and there are too many cited online for me to credit anyone with saying it first. Yet the truth is incontrovertible: "THE MASSES ARE ASSES."
What makes social life (and politically engaged life is a subset of social life) so doggone challenging is that the most obvious self-defense against mob mentality and imperial acquisition is retreating deep into some type of SMALL GROUP DYNAMIC that invariably carries with it the seeds of supremacist IDENTITY FORMATION.
The human foible of "OTHERING" I am continuously re-learning is hard-wired into human survival and human striving impulses. We can be alert and keep trying to check and control such hard-wiring of our beings and environments. But the only cure is to cease to exist.
I was surprised in an intro-level Sociology course as an undergrad to learn that there was a whole academic discipline with formal peer-review made up of the careful study of Small Group Formation and Cult Dynamics. I recommend regular online searching of the contributors to such ongoing thought. Wiki helps to build up one's necessarily broadening frames of reference. I started with Wiki searching the few professors I had as an undergrad that taught courses in Social Psychology and\or the Sociology of Small Group Dynamics and Cult Formation.
Journals like this one can help you build such a self-defense Rolodex as well (and perhaps a more meaningful and well-balanced Political Life, while keeping the gears and outlook humming smoothly without sending out too many WARNING MESSAGES through our own various vital systems for emotional and mental maintenance.
Bands like this one also help regulate fierce and regrettably often reactionary energies and impulses that can be both more enjoyable and useful when productively and socially challenged:
"I told ya", along with $5 will maybe buy some coffee in some places.
We are about to enter The Longest Week of our lives.
I lost my older sister to this Drumph/Faux "news" bullshit, and my frank attitude about anyone who has been suckered into the cult is, aloha, adios, shalom, AMF.
If they're dumb, lazy, and gullible enough to fall into that cult then they are dead to us. Let the dead bury the dead.
I understand that Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin, and Bad Bunny, all of whom are Puerto Rican, have some hundreds of millions of followers on social media and just told them to vote for Harris. Trump is going to be very sorry he opened his big fat mouth.
From all the reports and video clips getting press this morning ☕ your right, Dean. What an Ugly display for the World 🌍 to see?! How many of our Allies are getting REAL nervous right now?as being reported by the BBC cable news ! I want to thank you for watching this Debacle at the Garden last night, so I didn't have to and will reStack ASAP 💯👍🇺🇸💙🌊
BBC and other European news groups have issues with hate in their own countries. It seems, in times of stress, it is much easier to hate than to love. The hate is generated by fear.
Sorry I can think of no other country that is as hate filled as America right now! Madison Square being the Ultimate showcase. Next Tuesday will reveal to the world just who Americans really are!
I’m always amazed at how some people can measure quanties like hate, love, empathy, sanity and compare them across different cultures. That is beyond my skill level.
Just returned from a trip—a few weeks ago—from Southeast Asia. While in Cambodia while visiting the killing fields, I learned that Pol Pot before becoming Pol Pot had spent many years as a Buddhist Monk. Hmmmm. I can’t measure anything like that.
Osama bin Laden was the leader of an (corrupted Islamic) terrorist's group that attacked America. Trump is the leader of an (corrupted Christian) terrorist's group that attacked America. The difference between the two is only skin deep.
Sadly Americans greatest enemies are in their own country- domestic terrorists with a demented racist leader who cares only about himself and staying out of prison. I hope the rational caring Americans save us from a Fascist hell where the military comes after any undesirable- the rest of us.
African Americans, Latinos, women, Jews, Muslims … who did they forget? Um, the willfully unthinking lemmings rushing off the cliff. MAGA are in all its brainless glory.
A shit fest of garbage. It's who and what they are. Their values, principles and sense of humanity all in one place. It would've been a great party if Godzilla had crashed it and killed their racist buzz.
If the difference between the two candidates is not clear now, it never will be. I'm glad the media are finally calling out the MAGA hate group. Thinking back over the examples you wrote, the only group left out of their hate is white males. Maybe they should all go to a garbage island (not Puerto Rico, which I'm sure smells better than trump's Depends) but something uninhabited. Then they could be happy…
Yes, but… 1) it is inhabited at the stations various countries maintain (Chile and US come to mind), and 2) you would ruin a beautiful continent with them? Maybe if you put them in the desert center of the continent, as long as it doesn't interfere with Emperor Penguin habitat and reproduction. There's a lot more to Antarctica than a lot of people know about.
I understand fearing threats, but I also wonder where courage has gone. Women who have almost died due to abortion bans, who get out and tell their stories have more courage than the billionaire owners of those papers. I think it's a truth that everything trump touches dies - not just almost.
Well, uh—yeah, and even if I live on that strip of land the map calls "New Jersey" now, I still think that way! 😁 My best friend and I were driving to the movies the other day and I got cut off by a driver with New Jersey license plates and I snarled, "Gods-Damned Jersey Driver!"
Then I thought about what I'd said, and I sheepishly told my friend, "I've already hated Jersey drivers—even more so now that I AM one...."
You're welcome! I'm just glad I was able to find a decent copy of that map.
I get a feeling the thugs know they will lose the election, so they are just opening up the sluices on all the bile and invective. Or maybe it doesn't matter what they say, because they've got the problem already covered of not having enough votes. Hope it's the former, not the latter. But Trump won't go down without taking everything down with him.
Well i have been in the educational sphere for about 14 years. I will tell you what Tim Walz and any educator knows, if a joke hurts someone or mocks someone it's not a joke it's bullying. That is the biggest thing we hear from kids reported as bullying classmates. "Oh it was a joke not my fault they don't have a sense of humor." This is elementary, middle and highschool and it's sad the supposed adults think this way as well.
Democracy Dies in the Darkness: the choice is a lawless, depraved sociopath, convicted felon & fascist to the core vs a former prosecutor AG Senator VP. Spineless &/or corrupt media barons betraying the fundamentals of democracy & the rule of law...
I am so upset that some of my family are literal Trumpers and then some that are Trump voters they say because of the economy. Give me a fkin break… I don’t discuss policies with one but the others I scream at and say if he wins you deserve whatv he does to you( isn’t that
We would LIKE to think if trHUMP is elected, NOW we can scold and point fingers at those who put him in office. NOPE.SURPRISE!! SURPRISE!! These people will justify and abide ANYTHING trHUMP does or spews..retired MAGA's will GLEEFULLY accept a 30% reduction in SS; lack of farm workers = food prices will escalate 30%; schools will have mandatory COMMUNION CENTERS; your superb housecleaner deported back to Latin America ..and much more!! EXPECTING "OH!! my God, what have I done?? Why did I vote for that creep?"
RECEIVING " Ya, we've had to make some changes, but ONLY BECAUSE THE DEMS LEFT THE COUNTRY IN SUCH A MESS!!!"
I am so afraid right now. tRUMP is exploding with hate! Is this the kind of leader we want?? NO, OF COURSE NOT! Why is he being left to do his HATE SPEECH?????? REMEMBER 1984 by George Orwell???? That is what we are headed for if we don’t vote this evil man out of our lives!
***I was near a sheep a few days ago and he fit right into the MAGA Cult mold, drunk and swearing that Kamala’s followers (not that word) were ‘going to get their…comeuppance soon! He was a horrible human. The kind that has been ostracized because of his behavior. That MAGA CULT gave him and others like him, a reason to congregate with others of his elk. A boiling vat of wrong!!!! All alike and blindly following the second worst human in the planet. The SHEEP HERD! MAGA consists of people like this….Make America GAg!!! Please! Remember to vote….Do not let others do your thinking for you! Vote to save Us All! God Bless America. Protect US and SAVE US!
To think I say that to a family member is awful but that is what I feel .They listen to tiktok and podcasts and sadly are not critically thinking at all!!! Please vote so we don’t get that ahole in..
If I could only get my family to read this. It literally breaks my heart to know that people I grew up with will be voting for that man. I have tried for years to get them to listen to the truth about him but I gave up. They all live in a state so red that their votes won't change the results but it would change how I feel about them now. If trump wins I'm sure I'll be able to say, "told ya so" soon enough but at this point it isn't even worth it. I guess at least the media is being honest but what took so damned long? After voting has been going on for weeks, how many votes could the media have turned if they'd done their jobs all along? Personally I am sick at my stomach with the fear of that man either winning or having the house steal the election. The only thing that will save us is President Harris.
Racism and vulgarity is Trump’s closing argument. He’s got nothing else. Anyone who votes for him is equally racist and vulgar. Who knew half of the US population was ignorant, racist, vulgar and fascist?
Donald Trump’s racism and xenophobia are on full display. That’s what MAGA loves about him. That’s why his base is so steadfast. His central mandate is racism.
How about wearing this "Keep the immigrants, deport the racists" shirt in front of them? 👇
https://libtees-2.creator-spring.com/listing/keeplb
It's a pity that when (Democratic) speakers say "this is not who we are" they are wrong*. The reality is that, yes, nearly half of the people ARE misogynistic, bigoted, ahistoric, civic illiterates.
* to be charitable. Given what we've known for some time, they're lying - in a good cause, but still lying. Republicans are refreshingly honest about this: they'll admit it's who "we" (they) are. Unless they're called on it, only THEN are they "just joking".
It IS who (they are). Ha-ha. Good post, Warren, exactly right.
I respectfully disagree with your lede statement:
"It's a pity that when (Democratic) speakers say "this is not who we are" they are wrong*. The reality is that, yes, nearly half of the people ARE misogynistic, bigoted, ahistoric, civic illiterates."
My view of the demographic reality is that most of US are up for grabs in the IDENTITY POLITICS sweepstakes. I was raised by survivors and refugees from nation-states that were crumbling early to mid 20th Century former empires such as the Austro-Hungarian (Magyar side, not Deutsch-German)\Slovak hillbillies of the Carpathian and Tatra Mountains respectively. That his\herstory reinforced with a very good formal education in an ethnic school system taught me to mistrust MOB dynamics and mentality along with Cultic movements.
Also, to use reason as far as it can go towards securing safety first and opportunity for advancement second. Not that I've advanced very far, but one has to keep their minds and not just their eyes on a worthy goal.
I've witnessed up close (as in a mirror) how pliable Identity formation and Cultic group dynamics can be. So the artificial artifice of impenetrability doesn't hold much water with me. I won't be escaping mob mentality by joining any mobs. A highly valued mentor was my widely read and deeply experienced high school Social Studies teacher Elliot Abusch. I forget who he attributed this quote to and there are too many cited online for me to credit anyone with saying it first. Yet the truth is incontrovertible: "THE MASSES ARE ASSES."
What makes social life (and politically engaged life is a subset of social life) so doggone challenging is that the most obvious self-defense against mob mentality and imperial acquisition is retreating deep into some type of SMALL GROUP DYNAMIC that invariably carries with it the seeds of supremacist IDENTITY FORMATION.
The human foible of "OTHERING" I am continuously re-learning is hard-wired into human survival and human striving impulses. We can be alert and keep trying to check and control such hard-wiring of our beings and environments. But the only cure is to cease to exist.
I was surprised in an intro-level Sociology course as an undergrad to learn that there was a whole academic discipline with formal peer-review made up of the careful study of Small Group Formation and Cult Dynamics. I recommend regular online searching of the contributors to such ongoing thought. Wiki helps to build up one's necessarily broadening frames of reference. I started with Wiki searching the few professors I had as an undergrad that taught courses in Social Psychology and\or the Sociology of Small Group Dynamics and Cult Formation.
Journals like this one can help you build such a self-defense Rolodex as well (and perhaps a more meaningful and well-balanced Political Life, while keeping the gears and outlook humming smoothly without sending out too many WARNING MESSAGES through our own various vital systems for emotional and mental maintenance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Cultic_Studies_Association
Bands like this one also help regulate fierce and regrettably often reactionary energies and impulses that can be both more enjoyable and useful when productively and socially challenged:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurray_for_the_Riff_Raff
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/hurray-for-the-riff-raff-the-past-is-still-alive/
Health and balance,
Tio Mitchito
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Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers)
Media Discussion List\Looksee
Sorry to say, the answer to, "Who knew half of the US population was ignorant, racist, vulgar and fascist?"
I did. I get out into rural areas of our state on work assignments and see their idiot yard signs all the time.
There's one that has Drumph 2024 on one side and one that supports Ukraine on the opposite side.
There isn't enough gin, but I'm trying to cope with what I have.
Say it loud, Lisa: "Madam President!"
I had that dream once before.
"I told ya", along with $5 will maybe buy some coffee in some places.
We are about to enter The Longest Week of our lives.
I lost my older sister to this Drumph/Faux "news" bullshit, and my frank attitude about anyone who has been suckered into the cult is, aloha, adios, shalom, AMF.
If they're dumb, lazy, and gullible enough to fall into that cult then they are dead to us. Let the dead bury the dead.
I understand that Jennifer Lopez, Ricky Martin, and Bad Bunny, all of whom are Puerto Rican, have some hundreds of millions of followers on social media and just told them to vote for Harris. Trump is going to be very sorry he opened his big fat mouth.
Hope Geraldo Rivera, who's a Puerto Rican, Jewish American, will speak out about this horror. I read that he already announced he's voting for Harris
Don't forget Alynda Segarra's city street and grassroots band Hurray for the Riff Raff!
https://www.thefader.com/2018/05/22/hurray-for-the-riff-raff-palante-video
https://waxwingmag.org/items/issue10/71_Fox-Hurray-for-the-Riff-Raff.php
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurray_for_the_Riff_Raff
Many thanks Tone Poet aka Tony Gloeggler for turning me on to this band of street-smart and soulful artists.....
Tio Mitchito
Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers
Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers)
Media Discussion List\Looksee
From all the reports and video clips getting press this morning ☕ your right, Dean. What an Ugly display for the World 🌍 to see?! How many of our Allies are getting REAL nervous right now?as being reported by the BBC cable news ! I want to thank you for watching this Debacle at the Garden last night, so I didn't have to and will reStack ASAP 💯👍🇺🇸💙🌊
BBC and other European news groups have issues with hate in their own countries. It seems, in times of stress, it is much easier to hate than to love. The hate is generated by fear.
Sorry I can think of no other country that is as hate filled as America right now! Madison Square being the Ultimate showcase. Next Tuesday will reveal to the world just who Americans really are!
Sorry but you are not up on the news. UK, France, Germany, Netherlands and other countries all reporting increasing right-wing hate groups.
Yeps. Though the "hate-filled" sweepstakes is a difficult metric.
Sure but none that even remotely compares with trump's cesspit of lies and hate. Good luck America you're going to need it!
I’m always amazed at how some people can measure quanties like hate, love, empathy, sanity and compare them across different cultures. That is beyond my skill level.
Just returned from a trip—a few weeks ago—from Southeast Asia. While in Cambodia while visiting the killing fields, I learned that Pol Pot before becoming Pol Pot had spent many years as a Buddhist Monk. Hmmmm. I can’t measure anything like that.
Since you can, good for you.
Osama bin Laden was the leader of an (corrupted Islamic) terrorist's group that attacked America. Trump is the leader of an (corrupted Christian) terrorist's group that attacked America. The difference between the two is only skin deep.
Sadly Americans greatest enemies are in their own country- domestic terrorists with a demented racist leader who cares only about himself and staying out of prison. I hope the rational caring Americans save us from a Fascist hell where the military comes after any undesirable- the rest of us.
African Americans, Latinos, women, Jews, Muslims … who did they forget? Um, the willfully unthinking lemmings rushing off the cliff. MAGA are in all its brainless glory.
LGBT
Absolutely! (I forgot.)
So many hated groups—too many to remember. Worst of all, why? Why have to total the number of despised?
A shit fest of garbage. It's who and what they are. Their values, principles and sense of humanity all in one place. It would've been a great party if Godzilla had crashed it and killed their racist buzz.
A target rich environment for sure!
If the difference between the two candidates is not clear now, it never will be. I'm glad the media are finally calling out the MAGA hate group. Thinking back over the examples you wrote, the only group left out of their hate is white males. Maybe they should all go to a garbage island (not Puerto Rico, which I'm sure smells better than trump's Depends) but something uninhabited. Then they could be happy…
Antarctica?
Yes, but… 1) it is inhabited at the stations various countries maintain (Chile and US come to mind), and 2) you would ruin a beautiful continent with them? Maybe if you put them in the desert center of the continent, as long as it doesn't interfere with Emperor Penguin habitat and reproduction. There's a lot more to Antarctica than a lot of people know about.
I think the tipping point was Drumph's threatening retribution against EVERYONE WHO OPPOSED HIM. And that included the NYT.
It also includes WaPo and LA Times.
It's almost as if Everything Trump Touches Dies.
I understand fearing threats, but I also wonder where courage has gone. Women who have almost died due to abortion bans, who get out and tell their stories have more courage than the billionaire owners of those papers. I think it's a truth that everything trump touches dies - not just almost.
The craziest part was that the NY TIMES is acting like "WHAATTT??? We never suspected Donald Trump was a BIGOT before! Oh, the shock!"
::faints dead away::
I guess the NYT really does think like that famous NEW YORKER cartoon map of the world to people living in NYC—https://brilliantmaps.com/new-yorkers-world/ .
It''s not only NYT, but I have also come to believe it's almost everyone IN New York.
Thanks for the link.
Well, uh—yeah, and even if I live on that strip of land the map calls "New Jersey" now, I still think that way! 😁 My best friend and I were driving to the movies the other day and I got cut off by a driver with New Jersey license plates and I snarled, "Gods-Damned Jersey Driver!"
Then I thought about what I'd said, and I sheepishly told my friend, "I've already hated Jersey drivers—even more so now that I AM one...."
You're welcome! I'm just glad I was able to find a decent copy of that map.
I get a feeling the thugs know they will lose the election, so they are just opening up the sluices on all the bile and invective. Or maybe it doesn't matter what they say, because they've got the problem already covered of not having enough votes. Hope it's the former, not the latter. But Trump won't go down without taking everything down with him.
Love the word invective. Phillip K. Dick used it in The Man In The High Castle, a somewhat relevant book, now.
Well i have been in the educational sphere for about 14 years. I will tell you what Tim Walz and any educator knows, if a joke hurts someone or mocks someone it's not a joke it's bullying. That is the biggest thing we hear from kids reported as bullying classmates. "Oh it was a joke not my fault they don't have a sense of humor." This is elementary, middle and highschool and it's sad the supposed adults think this way as well.
Democracy Dies in the Darkness: the choice is a lawless, depraved sociopath, convicted felon & fascist to the core vs a former prosecutor AG Senator VP. Spineless &/or corrupt media barons betraying the fundamentals of democracy & the rule of law...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUZl26wJm5A
Trump revels in his Project 2025 authoritarianism, grievances, misogyny, racism, & hatred of the “other”.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMjhl9jxrug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svanGd7koNg
You know the tune —-
You make me feel so ill
You make me need to take a pill
And when I see your face
Wish I had the power to you erase
The moment that you speak
I want to let out the loudest shriek
And now that you’re old and gray
Will you please go away
You are so very vile
Can Putin take you into exile
You & Vance
are just a couple of fascists
Running off your mouths
With lies that are the brashest …..
The WaPo & LATimes don’t deserve a medal
Because you Donald & Vance are both vengeful and feral
So it to reiterate you make me feel so mad
When you lose we all be so very glad!!!!
And when we see Harris win
We’ll be such happy individuals
I am so upset that some of my family are literal Trumpers and then some that are Trump voters they say because of the economy. Give me a fkin break… I don’t discuss policies with one but the others I scream at and say if he wins you deserve whatv he does to you( isn’t that
I created this meme* yesterday. Maybe you should show it to your family members who are so supportive of the Trump "economy":
JFK, then - Words that inspired a generation: "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country."
MAGA, now: 'What can my country do for me? I don't care about anything else.'
*I couldn't copy the meme and post it here, so I've just included the text.
You are right sadly…
We would LIKE to think if trHUMP is elected, NOW we can scold and point fingers at those who put him in office. NOPE.SURPRISE!! SURPRISE!! These people will justify and abide ANYTHING trHUMP does or spews..retired MAGA's will GLEEFULLY accept a 30% reduction in SS; lack of farm workers = food prices will escalate 30%; schools will have mandatory COMMUNION CENTERS; your superb housecleaner deported back to Latin America ..and much more!! EXPECTING "OH!! my God, what have I done?? Why did I vote for that creep?"
RECEIVING " Ya, we've had to make some changes, but ONLY BECAUSE THE DEMS LEFT THE COUNTRY IN SUCH A MESS!!!"
I am so afraid right now. tRUMP is exploding with hate! Is this the kind of leader we want?? NO, OF COURSE NOT! Why is he being left to do his HATE SPEECH?????? REMEMBER 1984 by George Orwell???? That is what we are headed for if we don’t vote this evil man out of our lives!
***I was near a sheep a few days ago and he fit right into the MAGA Cult mold, drunk and swearing that Kamala’s followers (not that word) were ‘going to get their…comeuppance soon! He was a horrible human. The kind that has been ostracized because of his behavior. That MAGA CULT gave him and others like him, a reason to congregate with others of his elk. A boiling vat of wrong!!!! All alike and blindly following the second worst human in the planet. The SHEEP HERD! MAGA consists of people like this….Make America GAg!!! Please! Remember to vote….Do not let others do your thinking for you! Vote to save Us All! God Bless America. Protect US and SAVE US!
Don't be afraid. Get MAD.
To think I say that to a family member is awful but that is what I feel .They listen to tiktok and podcasts and sadly are not critically thinking at all!!! Please vote so we don’t get that ahole in..
I am desperate to believe you’re right about canceling his career