People saying stand down over 14th Amendment section 3 bar of Trump are missing the point. Yes, this won't get the votes needed BUT that doesn't mean Democrats should "obey in advance." Take the fight to Trump! Raise the issue in the media etc. Trump should be labeled an illegitimate President!
Agreed! Here are TWO ACTIONS people can take to raise their objections to Trump being sworn in as president:
1) Text: PGZBAX to 50409
They will ask for your name, address, and email, then if you approve, they'll email your Congressional Rep's and urge them to contest the Electoral Vote. Those votes were cast for a man already DISQUALIFIED from ever holding office again according to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Trump is an adjudicated insurrectionist and not qualified to be president, no matter how he got the votes he got.
2) Go to: nowmarch.org for information about peaceful demonstrations in DC from January 3-5. There are other demonstrations scheduled for January 4-5 in New York City and there may be others more local to your area but I don't have that information.
Pickles, maybe we have to be more creative than just calling our rep's. Even a sign that says, "DISQUALIFIED," posted in our neighborhood, or some other action at least returns people to the REALITY that Trump fomented a VIOLENT INSURRECTION, and many Congressional Republicans thought that was just fine...failing to convict him. But courts in three states, plus the J6 Committee found that Trump absolutely committed a treasonous insurrection and should never hold office again. Sometimes it's up to THE PEOPLE to do something. We can support the marchers in N.Y. and DC this weekend or go to a demonstration closer to home. That's what I plan to do in Los Angeles. nowmarch.org
It's an automated action. They will take your name, address, and email and, with your permission, email your congressional representatives, urging them to not certify the election because Trump is an adjudicated insurrectionist who is DISQUALIFIED from running for office according to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Courts in three states found Trump guilty of treasonous insurrection, even though the Republicans in the Senate fell short of convicting him in his second impeachment trial. Some of us are refusing to "obey in advance" and we are asserting our right to align with the spirit of the constitution, and not permit a dangerous, threatening, vindictive man to once again endanger us by literally giving him the power to do so.
RESISTBOT. It's a petition forum to share your voice with your officials. It's free. CHOOSE EMAIL when the prompt comes up that you need coins. you don't for EMAIL.
I have come to the sad conclusion that Democrats are weak, spineless, and afraid to stand up to the republican jackals. Democrats never forcefully call our republican lies. They never point out the chicanery of the republicans. Democrats often talk about "our friends across the aisle." (Here's a tip, Democrats: republicans are NOT your friends.) republicans are the enemies of democracy, and it's long past time for Democrats to start acting on that simple truth. Until they do, I'm probably going to step away from the political process altogether. Why vote for Democrats when they're only going to kowtow and make nice with the republican enemies of our nation? republicans are evil. (If they weren't, they wouldn't want to be associated with that white supremacist, fascist movement.) I will never vote for a republican, but after this last election it's become clear to me that Democrats have no gumption or willingness to stand up to the republican vulgarians. This country is totally screwed because Democratic politicians have no courage. It's that simple.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. I have written everyone almost daily since the election without one response! We have been left in the dark without any leadership and there were so many chances in the last 4 years to get that 🍊 nightmare!
Laura, I had the same result as you… not a single reply from my numerous posts to various influencers. There were always responses from like-minded readers but NOTHING from the influencers who have the readership and clout.
Also, very disappointed that our leaders, who are supposed to be ‘experts’, didn’t broadcast: “You can vote for Trump but he can NOT be sworn in; he’s an insurrectionist and is barred from office by our Constitution’s Section 3 of Article 14!” If that or something similar had been constantly broadcast we might have avoided this present dire situation. :-(
President Biden is the single individual with the power and authority (and immunity!!) to stop Trump at this late stage. His legacy will be determined by his action/inaction… his failure to stop Trump will be chipped into history’s granite!
I haven’t given up and will continue my attempts to get those in power to take vigorous steps to save our country from this Trump Travesty!!
Thank you, and I will never give up myself, but, it’s so frustrating that it ever got to this point! I feel like I’ve been screaming into a void! I have so much respect for President Biden, but, I’m not confident he will be doing much more than he already has. We have 13 judicial districts and Biden can appoint 4 more justices to the Supreme Court. Then there is section 3 of the 14th amendment. Wouldn’t it be going against VP Harris oath to certify the election of a man who incited an insurrection?
Don't waste your time on influencers. Your Representative and Senators may not directly respond, but contacting them can make a difference. They do pay attention to what constituents tell them. If course you may have unusually dimwits representing you.
True dat Vanessa, “When we fight we win” regurgitation was not only sickening, but were empty words sans real meaning. The path is clear to end Trumps z2025 fascist agenda. Every member of Congress took an oath to us and the Constitution…upholding their sworn duty by not allowing a 2/3 vote that allows the career criminal to place his hand another time on the Bible and swearing his true allegiance to his master puppeteer, Putin!!
Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1, you are so right 👍. "When we fight, we win" is just more bullshit. I didn't see Kamala fighting for even a hand recount in the battle ground states, her right ffs. The Democrats STILL don't get it, they're STILL trying to "play nice" with those treasonous Republicans. Dems never learn. 😞
My partner and I have been saying the same thing about VP Harris since the election. We believed her words, "When we fight, we win" but then conceded to the Mump Regime when many of the votes were still left to be counted. Since then she's completely dropped off the radar. Why?
What we can't comprehend is why the Democrats in power (Biden, Harris, Congress) aren't loudly questioning why a convicted felon, proven to cheat in multiple ways in both the 2016 and 2020 elections, who staged an insurrection in 2021 after he lost, who bribed election officials in Georgia to find a specific numbers of votes for him, who refused to help with a peaceful transition of power, who put the country through frivolous lawsuits for years about the "stolen" election he lost. Why would the guy who knew he faced serious prison time if he didn't win the presidency in 2024 not use everything in his crooked arsenal to be sure he didn't fail this time around. And why do Biden and Harris and the majority of Democrats in Congress suddenly believe he won "fair and square" this time around? It makes no sense.
Why are our elected officials, who swore an oath to uphold the constitution, smilingly handing over the reins of our democracy to the Mump Regime in front of a roaring fireplace in the WH? These evil people who tell us loudly and repeatedly how they intend to tear it all down.
Why were there no further investigations on the multiple bomb threats at polling places only in swing states and attributed to Russia (election interference), the payment or promise of payment of millions of dollars by Musk for people to vote for his guy (buying votes), his strategic disinformation campaign on X, his $250,000,000+ investment in getting the menace elected, and the oft repeated words of the menace at his rallies prior to the election stating he didn't need MAGATs votes because, "the votes will appear like magic". How did the orange menace win the electoral votes in ALL swing states with less than 50% of the popular vote when nobody had done that in 40 years-not even Obama in 2008 with his resounding win.
There is a reason so many of us keep cycling through the stages of grief and can't get to the acceptance stage. We feel betrayed, gaslighted, forgotten, ignored, lied to and deserted by those we respected and trusted to represent us and do what's best for our country and her inhabitants. It feels like our leaders have decided to abandon ship and left the rest of us to go down with it.
Right! When Kamala was fighting, she was winning. That she stopped fighting after Trump/Musk/Putin stole the election not only proves her point, but reveals a shockingly pusillanimous side of her, which once again shows what a grave error the party made by not having a real competitive primary to choose their nominee.
And yet the "I give up/won't vote because the Dems aren't the kind of perfect I think they should be" is a big chunk of what got us where we are now. If you're going to join the other side, go ahead and announce it.
Deen is right. It's curious why Biden isn't doing anything. It's like he wants to be remembered as being the best president in history. Biden will be remembered as being the most stupid idiot in history for not acting at the peak of the biggest crisis in his term.
Trump is not the only thing. There are many issues biden hasn't addressed that blatantly call for investigation, arrest, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment.
1) Trump clearly demonstrated advancing dementia in his speeches during the campaigns. He was not cognitive of his surroundings; Arnold palmers dick? He mistook taxes as being Tariffs? He often did not know who he was running against? This guy's judgement is going to be called upon whether to launch nuclear weapons or not in an emergency.
2) Trump had colluded with America's enemies, stole secret files, and shared them with Putin while he was chief commander. He should be put on military trial for treason; it's got nothing to do with the supreme Court. These are two completely segregated justice systems that have no say on each other's function or decisions. Civilian law is not military law. Military law is more concerned with protecting the constitution.
3) Elon Musk has to be brought on charges of election interference, along with Trump. Not just because it was found Trump did commit election fraud in 2020 by creating fake electrol certificates and Elon Musk blatantly bribed people for Republican votes. Trump has effectively made himself a proxy to Elon Musk, thereby enabling Musk to be president. Nobody voted for Musk to be anything. And, he does not have legal citizen status to hold any kind of office.
I agree with your appraisal of Biden - he definitely loves his position, is very disappointed he lost this time, but determined to try & be 'the best prez ever' - with no regard for what he SHOULD be doing to save the country from trump. After all if he does nothing, how can anyone else do anything ? Treating trump as 'just the next prez to take over' as he has just makes me see red !!!
Biden has undermined his own legacy by failing to bring Trump to justice & allowing him back in the presidency to harm our nation just like Buchanan's failure to avert the Civil War & Hoover's failure to avoid the Great Depression spoiled their legacies.
More like clerks than lapdogs, with a ready supply of KY jelly. We need to stop negotiating with ourselves and elect much younger leaders who have the energy to fight for America.
And who WANT to fight and WANT to win. Who aren't afraid of losing their precious benefit laden jobs by rocking any boats. Go along to get along doesn't work. We need young hungry warriors to get in the battle and take the reins and charge into the fight!
If no one takes any action, the 14th Amendment means little. CO tried to pave the way. And we may write letters and make calls, but, in the end, all we can do is watch them do nothing.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--
It took 100 years for it to be enforced, in the south, by the Voting Rights Act of 1965. The enforcement of the amendment was the result of people. Congress did nothing for 100 years because the majority of the people let them. Don't give up. Keep saying he is an illegitimate president. Repetition works. Trump uses repetition to make lies stick. The only way to loosen the grip of lies is with the truth.
Sad truths Robin, I’ve called and written every member of Congress, demanding they do their sworn duty, by not voting the incompetent insurrectionist another shot at serving his puppet master Putin!
If Trump hadn’t been a Confidential Informant for the FBI, he’d be in a prison cell today!!
It still matters. Yes they use form letters. So do their constituents. It doesn't mean that they don't pay attention. Unless they are particularly crappy, they want to know our priorities.
It's all falling into the very same situation as with the Mueller report & now the removing any trump Federal liabilities 'because he is going to be the president' - and nobody believes anything will come back at the end of 4 more years - the whole thing will have died & all will be whatever those in control wish it to be - just ignore all those inconvenient truths lest somebody in their club spills the beans on them too !
"They were right. Now it’s time for these same Democrats to boldly act like Trump was the very type of threat they warned us he was."
This is near the top of my frustrations. For years Trump has shown the world who he is - and - adversaries of his actions loudly warned us at every infraction (rightfully so) that this nut case was going to burn the house to the ground if he were ever elected to anything ever again.
I wish I had confidence that our elected leaders would do what's called for here: LEAD! By not raising this issue, by not taking the fight to trump, they are abdicating their responsibility.
I know, but it frustrates me that he’s legally barred, the repubs know this & nominated him anyway. This is the best example of how much they “care” about, and want to have more control over, people. It’s maddening!
Also in 2020, which was also rife with cheating. It just wasn't enough to overcome the huge turnout of people who normally didn't vote, but were motivated to get rid of Trump. This time they had to cheat even more convincingly in a way in which it wouldn't matter whom people voted for, it was already predetermined.
We need more fearless women in leadership and in governing positions. They are warriors, they are care-givers, they know how to get things done. Our government was modeled after the Iroquois Confederacy - only the founding “fathers” left one thing out - the matriarchy. How about a male congress, and an all female Senate, to set them straight, when they make stupid decisions or rules? Mother’s know better.
Yes! I am egging all democratic congress people to raise a stink about this. Enough with the 'political chess' for heavens sake Do something. If the Constitution means Anything to them. They need to speak out.
Maybe the only way for the Republicans to learn what a mess Donald Trump is is for him to actually go ahead and destroy the country. It’s the only way the Maga idiots will believe it.
MAGA idiots will end up homeless, penniless, starving and sick at the hands of their Orange Jesus and his henchmen...and they will be blaming gays, trans kids, woke, Democrats, coastal elites and the Deep State, but ever so happy that in their pain they own the libs...
Nothing to apologize for. Even my girlfriend clings to hope. Good people want to see the good in others. I understand that but just because some have goodness doesn’t mean they are not deluded and they can cause great harm.
The only problem is that services we dependent on like Social Security, Medicare, the Postal Service, the Consumer Protection Bureau, the IRS, the FBI, could be privatized (& thus more expensive & less accessible), gutted or eliminated, & Trump could start a civil war, a world War, &/or a nuclear conflagration, or he might just give our country away to Russia or China. He has no self-restraint & now nobody to restrain him. Neither does he have any common sense.
Has anyone with any authority in the administration, in Congress, in the judicial or legal systems, in the Democratic Party or in the media fully contemplated the ramifications of a Trump presidency & prepared to either prevent it or come up with an effective way to contain it?
He’s made a mockery of not only our democracy, but wiped his diapered ass on the Constitution already Jacquelin! Never again is the refrain we must all agree upon!!
It's all about the last election and living four years with republicans claiming trump won in 2020. It was extremely destructive to the country. It doesn't shock me that the older leaders aren't talking about the 14th amendment but I am surprised Crockett and AOC haven't said anything. Look how Biden has given trump respect he is hasn't earned nor does he deserve it.
And good point! Crockett and AOC also don’t get the respect they deserve, either. Neither does Kamala, Elizabeth Warren, Ketanji Brown - all the women who speak up. I imagine it can be discouraging and debilitating to be constantly in battle w deception and greed. Perhaps they need to take a breath and know they have support?
AOC along with Bernie has been the most outspoken member of Congress since the election, & has several times pointed out that Trump is legally disqualified to be President.
Actually the first group to blow the chance to rid us of trump was the Senate. If they had convicted him, he would be hiding in Maralago and we'd never have to look at or hear him again. But McConnell said, let the courts handle it, then Garlard pussyfooted around for two years before appointing a special counsel and we all know how trump has manipulated the justice system, with a little assist from one of his appointed judges. Then America gave him the final assist by selecting him over one of the most qualified candidates to ever run. Literally the only candidate to have worked in all yhree branches of government. She kicked his ass in the only debate the chicken shit would agree to. She did interviews and talked policy while he talked about movie characters, being eaten by sharks vs electrocution. When asked specific question like, will you work towards help with childcare, he rambles and ends with, "childcare is childcare". God damn brilliant, right? All I can say is the next four years are going to be the longest of my life. All we can hope for is that there are enough patriots left in Congress with R's behind their names to stop the worst he has planned. Including putting patel in charge of the FBI.
Ever noticed how easy it is to get carried away when talking about that orange ratfucker?
You are correct. John Roberts was the one that was over the impeachment hearings and he pretty much gave the Jim Jordan’s the ability to push their BS and pretty much let them run the hearings. There is enough corruption going on in the entire GOP that it’s impossible to keep up. I just learned about their slush fund to buy off victims of their follies. I am very unsure if I will survive 4 more years.
That slush fund, seriously, they investigate Biden, his son, spent years destroying Hillary with bs investigations and all that time they have congresspersons who they KNOW have committed offenses they would vilify a democrat if they were caught doing but they cover it up. Once more we see that double standard blasting us in the face and we're powerless to stop it. When mtg threatened to expose what she knew, every democrat in congress should have screamed for her to tell what she knew. They should be screaming now. Tell us what you know!!
Let’s face it back when Hawthorn commented on being invited to sex parties with the republicans somebody like maybe Garland should have started an investigation on his accusations. Instead the GOP did what they do best, got rid of the source.
I'm going to be 66 in February and I think this last year has aged me 10 years. I am working hard to get my husband to get the hell out of this country. He says trump isn't going to run him out of his home and country. I say it won't be the same country soon.
I just turned 76 in October but if I was younger I would be looking to relocate. I just keep putting my faith in our democracy and pray for the best. Just makes me so sad to think o the way it will be for the babies and children that inherit this mess.
They know that if they keep stirring up conspiracies we will all just let it slide. I wonder how deep the corruption really goes. I just saw one Senators comment about Moscow Mike doesn’t cheat on his wife so that qualifies him to be voted back in as speaker. Guess it doesn’t matter that he was very involved with the insurrection,
People saying stand down over 14th Amendment section 3 bar of Trump are missing the point. Yes, this won't get the votes needed BUT that doesn't mean Democrats should "obey in advance." Take the fight to Trump! Raise the issue in the media etc. Trump should be labeled an illegitimate President!
Agreed! Here are TWO ACTIONS people can take to raise their objections to Trump being sworn in as president:
1) Text: PGZBAX to 50409
They will ask for your name, address, and email, then if you approve, they'll email your Congressional Rep's and urge them to contest the Electoral Vote. Those votes were cast for a man already DISQUALIFIED from ever holding office again according to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. Trump is an adjudicated insurrectionist and not qualified to be president, no matter how he got the votes he got.
2) Go to: nowmarch.org for information about peaceful demonstrations in DC from January 3-5. There are other demonstrations scheduled for January 4-5 in New York City and there may be others more local to your area but I don't have that information.
Unfortunately I have a Repug Representative and 2 Repug Senators who never answer or respond appropriately to any of my concerns😡
Pickles, maybe we have to be more creative than just calling our rep's. Even a sign that says, "DISQUALIFIED," posted in our neighborhood, or some other action at least returns people to the REALITY that Trump fomented a VIOLENT INSURRECTION, and many Congressional Republicans thought that was just fine...failing to convict him. But courts in three states, plus the J6 Committee found that Trump absolutely committed a treasonous insurrection and should never hold office again. Sometimes it's up to THE PEOPLE to do something. We can support the marchers in N.Y. and DC this weekend or go to a demonstration closer to home. That's what I plan to do in Los Angeles. nowmarch.org
Repubs don’t give a damn about We the People! Which Trump/Elon voters will be smacked with! Coming soon!
What is PGZBAX to 50409?
It's an automated action. They will take your name, address, and email and, with your permission, email your congressional representatives, urging them to not certify the election because Trump is an adjudicated insurrectionist who is DISQUALIFIED from running for office according to Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
Courts in three states found Trump guilty of treasonous insurrection, even though the Republicans in the Senate fell short of convicting him in his second impeachment trial. Some of us are refusing to "obey in advance" and we are asserting our right to align with the spirit of the constitution, and not permit a dangerous, threatening, vindictive man to once again endanger us by literally giving him the power to do so.
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Exactly! Maybe that is coming soon, I believe something IS going on regarding this, and all the other > obvious questions regarding this debacle..
Democrats would need to find a spine before they would make an issue of the 14th Amendment.
They need to keep their powder dry. lol
I have come to the sad conclusion that Democrats are weak, spineless, and afraid to stand up to the republican jackals. Democrats never forcefully call our republican lies. They never point out the chicanery of the republicans. Democrats often talk about "our friends across the aisle." (Here's a tip, Democrats: republicans are NOT your friends.) republicans are the enemies of democracy, and it's long past time for Democrats to start acting on that simple truth. Until they do, I'm probably going to step away from the political process altogether. Why vote for Democrats when they're only going to kowtow and make nice with the republican enemies of our nation? republicans are evil. (If they weren't, they wouldn't want to be associated with that white supremacist, fascist movement.) I will never vote for a republican, but after this last election it's become clear to me that Democrats have no gumption or willingness to stand up to the republican vulgarians. This country is totally screwed because Democratic politicians have no courage. It's that simple.
Unfortunately, I agree with you. I have written everyone almost daily since the election without one response! We have been left in the dark without any leadership and there were so many chances in the last 4 years to get that 🍊 nightmare!
Laura, I had the same result as you… not a single reply from my numerous posts to various influencers. There were always responses from like-minded readers but NOTHING from the influencers who have the readership and clout.
Also, very disappointed that our leaders, who are supposed to be ‘experts’, didn’t broadcast: “You can vote for Trump but he can NOT be sworn in; he’s an insurrectionist and is barred from office by our Constitution’s Section 3 of Article 14!” If that or something similar had been constantly broadcast we might have avoided this present dire situation. :-(
President Biden is the single individual with the power and authority (and immunity!!) to stop Trump at this late stage. His legacy will be determined by his action/inaction… his failure to stop Trump will be chipped into history’s granite!
I haven’t given up and will continue my attempts to get those in power to take vigorous steps to save our country from this Trump Travesty!!
Thank you, and I will never give up myself, but, it’s so frustrating that it ever got to this point! I feel like I’ve been screaming into a void! I have so much respect for President Biden, but, I’m not confident he will be doing much more than he already has. We have 13 judicial districts and Biden can appoint 4 more justices to the Supreme Court. Then there is section 3 of the 14th amendment. Wouldn’t it be going against VP Harris oath to certify the election of a man who incited an insurrection?
Don't waste your time on influencers. Your Representative and Senators may not directly respond, but contacting them can make a difference. They do pay attention to what constituents tell them. If course you may have unusually dimwits representing you.
True dat Vanessa, “When we fight we win” regurgitation was not only sickening, but were empty words sans real meaning. The path is clear to end Trumps z2025 fascist agenda. Every member of Congress took an oath to us and the Constitution…upholding their sworn duty by not allowing a 2/3 vote that allows the career criminal to place his hand another time on the Bible and swearing his true allegiance to his master puppeteer, Putin!!
Patrick Daniels aka Cromulent1, you are so right 👍. "When we fight, we win" is just more bullshit. I didn't see Kamala fighting for even a hand recount in the battle ground states, her right ffs. The Democrats STILL don't get it, they're STILL trying to "play nice" with those treasonous Republicans. Dems never learn. 😞
My partner and I have been saying the same thing about VP Harris since the election. We believed her words, "When we fight, we win" but then conceded to the Mump Regime when many of the votes were still left to be counted. Since then she's completely dropped off the radar. Why?
What we can't comprehend is why the Democrats in power (Biden, Harris, Congress) aren't loudly questioning why a convicted felon, proven to cheat in multiple ways in both the 2016 and 2020 elections, who staged an insurrection in 2021 after he lost, who bribed election officials in Georgia to find a specific numbers of votes for him, who refused to help with a peaceful transition of power, who put the country through frivolous lawsuits for years about the "stolen" election he lost. Why would the guy who knew he faced serious prison time if he didn't win the presidency in 2024 not use everything in his crooked arsenal to be sure he didn't fail this time around. And why do Biden and Harris and the majority of Democrats in Congress suddenly believe he won "fair and square" this time around? It makes no sense.
Why are our elected officials, who swore an oath to uphold the constitution, smilingly handing over the reins of our democracy to the Mump Regime in front of a roaring fireplace in the WH? These evil people who tell us loudly and repeatedly how they intend to tear it all down.
Why were there no further investigations on the multiple bomb threats at polling places only in swing states and attributed to Russia (election interference), the payment or promise of payment of millions of dollars by Musk for people to vote for his guy (buying votes), his strategic disinformation campaign on X, his $250,000,000+ investment in getting the menace elected, and the oft repeated words of the menace at his rallies prior to the election stating he didn't need MAGATs votes because, "the votes will appear like magic". How did the orange menace win the electoral votes in ALL swing states with less than 50% of the popular vote when nobody had done that in 40 years-not even Obama in 2008 with his resounding win.
There is a reason so many of us keep cycling through the stages of grief and can't get to the acceptance stage. We feel betrayed, gaslighted, forgotten, ignored, lied to and deserted by those we respected and trusted to represent us and do what's best for our country and her inhabitants. It feels like our leaders have decided to abandon ship and left the rest of us to go down with it.
Right! When Kamala was fighting, she was winning. That she stopped fighting after Trump/Musk/Putin stole the election not only proves her point, but reveals a shockingly pusillanimous side of her, which once again shows what a grave error the party made by not having a real competitive primary to choose their nominee.
Polite incompetence.
And yet the "I give up/won't vote because the Dems aren't the kind of perfect I think they should be" is a big chunk of what got us where we are now. If you're going to join the other side, go ahead and announce it.
Maybe your feeling are why so many people
Don’t vote.
Or maybe people are just disgusted with the rigged, corrupt political process. I know I am.
Then run for office yourself, Vanessa! Dean brings up great points, and so do you.
Agreed.
Democrats are DO NOTHINGS so sick of them...want a new progressive party
Deen is right. It's curious why Biden isn't doing anything. It's like he wants to be remembered as being the best president in history. Biden will be remembered as being the most stupid idiot in history for not acting at the peak of the biggest crisis in his term.
Trump is not the only thing. There are many issues biden hasn't addressed that blatantly call for investigation, arrest, prosecution, conviction, and imprisonment.
1) Trump clearly demonstrated advancing dementia in his speeches during the campaigns. He was not cognitive of his surroundings; Arnold palmers dick? He mistook taxes as being Tariffs? He often did not know who he was running against? This guy's judgement is going to be called upon whether to launch nuclear weapons or not in an emergency.
2) Trump had colluded with America's enemies, stole secret files, and shared them with Putin while he was chief commander. He should be put on military trial for treason; it's got nothing to do with the supreme Court. These are two completely segregated justice systems that have no say on each other's function or decisions. Civilian law is not military law. Military law is more concerned with protecting the constitution.
3) Elon Musk has to be brought on charges of election interference, along with Trump. Not just because it was found Trump did commit election fraud in 2020 by creating fake electrol certificates and Elon Musk blatantly bribed people for Republican votes. Trump has effectively made himself a proxy to Elon Musk, thereby enabling Musk to be president. Nobody voted for Musk to be anything. And, he does not have legal citizen status to hold any kind of office.
I agree with your appraisal of Biden - he definitely loves his position, is very disappointed he lost this time, but determined to try & be 'the best prez ever' - with no regard for what he SHOULD be doing to save the country from trump. After all if he does nothing, how can anyone else do anything ? Treating trump as 'just the next prez to take over' as he has just makes me see red !!!
Biden has undermined his own legacy by failing to bring Trump to justice & allowing him back in the presidency to harm our nation just like Buchanan's failure to avert the Civil War & Hoover's failure to avoid the Great Depression spoiled their legacies.
Exactly!! He shouldn't have been allowed to even run. Democrats are lap dogs...they won't do a thing.
More like clerks than lapdogs, with a ready supply of KY jelly. We need to stop negotiating with ourselves and elect much younger leaders who have the energy to fight for America.
Was it bad that I laughed at the KY jelly comment? 😁
And who WANT to fight and WANT to win. Who aren't afraid of losing their precious benefit laden jobs by rocking any boats. Go along to get along doesn't work. We need young hungry warriors to get in the battle and take the reins and charge into the fight!
If no one takes any action, the 14th Amendment means little. CO tried to pave the way. And we may write letters and make calls, but, in the end, all we can do is watch them do nothing.
The 15th amendment Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude--
It took 100 years for it to be enforced, in the south, by the Voting Rights Act of 1965. The enforcement of the amendment was the result of people. Congress did nothing for 100 years because the majority of the people let them. Don't give up. Keep saying he is an illegitimate president. Repetition works. Trump uses repetition to make lies stick. The only way to loosen the grip of lies is with the truth.
Traitor Trump...illegitimate president!
Sad truths Robin, I’ve called and written every member of Congress, demanding they do their sworn duty, by not voting the incompetent insurrectionist another shot at serving his puppet master Putin!
If Trump hadn’t been a Confidential Informant for the FBI, he’d be in a prison cell today!!
Patrick, I've done the same and only get the standard form letters back. It's like nobody's even interested in reading my concerns 😔.
It still matters. Yes they use form letters. So do their constituents. It doesn't mean that they don't pay attention. Unless they are particularly crappy, they want to know our priorities.
What is or was he a Confidential Informant for?
It's all falling into the very same situation as with the Mueller report & now the removing any trump Federal liabilities 'because he is going to be the president' - and nobody believes anything will come back at the end of 4 more years - the whole thing will have died & all will be whatever those in control wish it to be - just ignore all those inconvenient truths lest somebody in their club spills the beans on them too !
This, right here:
"They were right. Now it’s time for these same Democrats to boldly act like Trump was the very type of threat they warned us he was."
This is near the top of my frustrations. For years Trump has shown the world who he is - and - adversaries of his actions loudly warned us at every infraction (rightfully so) that this nut case was going to burn the house to the ground if he were ever elected to anything ever again.
And yet, since the election - crickets.
I wish I had confidence that our elected leaders would do what's called for here: LEAD! By not raising this issue, by not taking the fight to trump, they are abdicating their responsibility.
Why was he even nominated?!? 🤔🤦🏽♀️
Because he's the perfect useful idiot for the republicans to manipulate and get whatever they want.
I know, but it frustrates me that he’s legally barred, the repubs know this & nominated him anyway. This is the best example of how much they “care” about, and want to have more control over, people. It’s maddening!
Good call Lisa, except TPTB and Putin are the master puppeteers pulling the strings!!
Useful idiot for Putin. Putin's interference in 2016 and 2024 are well documented.
Also in 2020, which was also rife with cheating. It just wasn't enough to overcome the huge turnout of people who normally didn't vote, but were motivated to get rid of Trump. This time they had to cheat even more convincingly in a way in which it wouldn't matter whom people voted for, it was already predetermined.
We need more fearless women in leadership and in governing positions. They are warriors, they are care-givers, they know how to get things done. Our government was modeled after the Iroquois Confederacy - only the founding “fathers” left one thing out - the matriarchy. How about a male congress, and an all female Senate, to set them straight, when they make stupid decisions or rules? Mother’s know better.
Yes! I am egging all democratic congress people to raise a stink about this. Enough with the 'political chess' for heavens sake Do something. If the Constitution means Anything to them. They need to speak out.
Maybe the only way for the Republicans to learn what a mess Donald Trump is is for him to actually go ahead and destroy the country. It’s the only way the Maga idiots will believe it.
MAGA idiots will end up homeless, penniless, starving and sick at the hands of their Orange Jesus and his henchmen...and they will be blaming gays, trans kids, woke, Democrats, coastal elites and the Deep State, but ever so happy that in their pain they own the libs...
Delusional. MAGA will rationalize no matter what.
Why are Dems not standing up? Because they are gutless cowards protecting themselves instead of the country.
Sorry, I guess I’m still clinging to hope…
Nothing to apologize for. Even my girlfriend clings to hope. Good people want to see the good in others. I understand that but just because some have goodness doesn’t mean they are not deluded and they can cause great harm.
The only problem is that services we dependent on like Social Security, Medicare, the Postal Service, the Consumer Protection Bureau, the IRS, the FBI, could be privatized (& thus more expensive & less accessible), gutted or eliminated, & Trump could start a civil war, a world War, &/or a nuclear conflagration, or he might just give our country away to Russia or China. He has no self-restraint & now nobody to restrain him. Neither does he have any common sense.
Has anyone with any authority in the administration, in Congress, in the judicial or legal systems, in the Democratic Party or in the media fully contemplated the ramifications of a Trump presidency & prepared to either prevent it or come up with an effective way to contain it?
He’s made a mockery of not only our democracy, but wiped his diapered ass on the Constitution already Jacquelin! Never again is the refrain we must all agree upon!!
Conclusion: the Democrats couldn't organize a piss up in a brewery.
Right. It wouldn’t be polite and might offend someone!
Or a blowjob in a brothel!
It's all about the last election and living four years with republicans claiming trump won in 2020. It was extremely destructive to the country. It doesn't shock me that the older leaders aren't talking about the 14th amendment but I am surprised Crockett and AOC haven't said anything. Look how Biden has given trump respect he is hasn't earned nor does he deserve it.
And good point! Crockett and AOC also don’t get the respect they deserve, either. Neither does Kamala, Elizabeth Warren, Ketanji Brown - all the women who speak up. I imagine it can be discouraging and debilitating to be constantly in battle w deception and greed. Perhaps they need to take a breath and know they have support?
AOC along with Bernie has been the most outspoken member of Congress since the election, & has several times pointed out that Trump is legally disqualified to be President.
I have not seen any comments about the corrupt supreme courts the reason he was allowed on the ballot in the first place.
Actually the first group to blow the chance to rid us of trump was the Senate. If they had convicted him, he would be hiding in Maralago and we'd never have to look at or hear him again. But McConnell said, let the courts handle it, then Garlard pussyfooted around for two years before appointing a special counsel and we all know how trump has manipulated the justice system, with a little assist from one of his appointed judges. Then America gave him the final assist by selecting him over one of the most qualified candidates to ever run. Literally the only candidate to have worked in all yhree branches of government. She kicked his ass in the only debate the chicken shit would agree to. She did interviews and talked policy while he talked about movie characters, being eaten by sharks vs electrocution. When asked specific question like, will you work towards help with childcare, he rambles and ends with, "childcare is childcare". God damn brilliant, right? All I can say is the next four years are going to be the longest of my life. All we can hope for is that there are enough patriots left in Congress with R's behind their names to stop the worst he has planned. Including putting patel in charge of the FBI.
Ever noticed how easy it is to get carried away when talking about that orange ratfucker?
You are correct. John Roberts was the one that was over the impeachment hearings and he pretty much gave the Jim Jordan’s the ability to push their BS and pretty much let them run the hearings. There is enough corruption going on in the entire GOP that it’s impossible to keep up. I just learned about their slush fund to buy off victims of their follies. I am very unsure if I will survive 4 more years.
That slush fund, seriously, they investigate Biden, his son, spent years destroying Hillary with bs investigations and all that time they have congresspersons who they KNOW have committed offenses they would vilify a democrat if they were caught doing but they cover it up. Once more we see that double standard blasting us in the face and we're powerless to stop it. When mtg threatened to expose what she knew, every democrat in congress should have screamed for her to tell what she knew. They should be screaming now. Tell us what you know!!
Let’s face it back when Hawthorn commented on being invited to sex parties with the republicans somebody like maybe Garland should have started an investigation on his accusations. Instead the GOP did what they do best, got rid of the source.
Yep, I had forgotten about that.
I'm going to be 66 in February and I think this last year has aged me 10 years. I am working hard to get my husband to get the hell out of this country. He says trump isn't going to run him out of his home and country. I say it won't be the same country soon.
I just turned 76 in October but if I was younger I would be looking to relocate. I just keep putting my faith in our democracy and pray for the best. Just makes me so sad to think o the way it will be for the babies and children that inherit this mess.
I've felt that way about the environment for years.
They know that if they keep stirring up conspiracies we will all just let it slide. I wonder how deep the corruption really goes. I just saw one Senators comment about Moscow Mike doesn’t cheat on his wife so that qualifies him to be voted back in as speaker. Guess it doesn’t matter that he was very involved with the insurrection,
SCOTUS didn't agree or disagree. They threw it back to Congress. Said it was not their decision to make.