Dean, you're right the threats are real and cannot be ignored. So then perhaps it's time to start arresting people who make the threats. Start with Loomer and any of the other big names who are trying to incite the crowd. Chase down the IP addresses and phones of those who call or X the judge or the jurors. And somehow get the corporate media to act responsibly and stop giving oxygen to thugs like Cotton, Vance, Cruz, Johnson, Greene and the rest.
Even if Loomer's statement is not enough to permit an arrest, law enforcement should investigate it. Ask her what she meant? What was she expecting as a response to her statement? Was she asking for people to kill Democrats?
They certainly tend towards conservative, and many are Bat Sh*t MAGA Crazy. But if a prosecutor asks for further investigation, I hope they can send someone who would put a little fear of God into Loomer.
Is it possible that the MAGAs can successfully use AI to identify the jurors? Please for once don’t react after the threats. We were warned repeatedly before January 6 and those warnings went unheeded. Anyone threatening violence must be held accountable including the members of Congress. Who do we demand this of?
wise words Peter, but will we have to sit back and like we watch the injustice of Ukraine, and Gaza unfold before our eyes and ourselves feel powerless and then observe the worlds teeth to stop stuff like this happening, have no bite and effectively powerless...............will the post Trump stuff unfold and we be powerless, and the wisdom of your suggestions count for naught....again. And the worst outcome will become our apocalyptic reality. I hope not....but hope is a seemingly long ball play commodity these days.......it's hard to keep.
The same cult freaks screaming about Hunter Biden’s stupid nonexistent laptop say they don’t care about Donald Trump’s 34 felony convictions 🤦🏻♀️
However, keep in mind is that MAGA relies on intimidation to do 99.9% of the heavy lifting for them. If they threaten violence enough, they don’t actually have to leave their moms’ basements. I’m sure there will be a few lone wolves because it’s still a cult, but also nobody truly wants to go to prison for convicted felon Donald Trump. They’ve seen what’s happened to all of the January 6th insurrectionists who found out
You also have to wonder how bad could the blackmail be on any member of the Republican Party that they think it’ll still make them look worse than being an adjudicated rapist convicted felon. There’s already a discussion about replacing Trump before the RNC, so hopefully that’ll pick up a lot more steam very quickly.
Finally, anyone openly choosing loyalty to Donald Trump over the United States of America is more than welcome to go to prison with him
As Adam Serwer pointed out, remember when Sarah Huckabee Sanders went to a restaurant and they politely asked her to leave (without charging her for the appetizers she and her party had) and civility in politics was suddenly the most important issue facing the country for like a month?
I sure as F do. Now everyone who displeases Donald Trump needs private security and hey, that’s just the passionate followers of an unusual politician.
Judge Merchan should NOT be intimidated by all the MAGA Fascist threats. Besides the jail time for the 34 felony counts, tRump should definitely do added time for his courtroom antics and disrespect. Plus, the eleventy-billion times he disregarded his gag order and his now stochastic threats of violence!! It’s PAST TIME to LOCK HIM UP! If MAGA is gonna act, better it be now and SQUASHED BIGLY, than come the election!!
Yes I wrote “eleventy-billion” and YES, I’m a “Steph Head!” A very longtime friend of the Stephanie Miller Show! Check her out LIVE mornings, from her very own basement,on Free Speech TV or on your favorite Podcast player!
He should be arrested and put in prison now...he is inciting violence which leads to death...he already did it once...WTF is WRONG WITH OUR GOV't...WHERE IS THE FBI, THE NATIONAL GUARD SHOULD BE READY...THERE SHOULD BE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE AT VOTING AREAS
When Donald was running in 2015-2016 the ask was pretty light. You had to be attracted to a glamorous billionaire and didn't care much for Hillary. And didn't care about sexual assault of women.
When Donald was running in 2019-2020, the ask was getting tougher. You had to accept his failure to follow science and overlooked a million unnecessary deaths.
Then the bribery attempt of President Zelensky. And impeachment. The ask was getting much more difficult to stomach.
His 2020 election loss led to his decision to try to steal the Executive Branch of the government. And police were attacked by his MAGA thugs and some died. Then another impeachment. The ask is getting very difficult.
The number of people (the MAGAs) willing to overlook these crimes is shrinking. While the blind loyalty testing of MAGAhood is getting more stringent. The tent is getting smaller and smaller.
Now he's a convicted felon. And a convicted business fraud. And a convicted rapist and victim defamer. The ask is getting very, very difficult to accept.
Say the core MAGA cult is 50 million adults, out of 260 million adults in the US. How many of them will commit violent acts against the government or the rational majority of citizens? They say "stand back and be ready". There are 200 million Americans who are ready to fight back.
Perhaps, like Lonesome Rhodes, Donald's ask gets too expensive, and the MAGAs evaporate back into normal society. Like the tipping point for cigarettes, eventually Donald will no longer be Cool. To anyone. So we pray.
Actually I think the magats will crawl back under the rotten logs they came out from. They might pretend to be normal, but I don't think they will change.
The answer to Dean’s question “Will Trump’s smears of the verdict and his “breaking point” language escalate those threats and even potentially lead to violence by Trump’s supporters?” we all kno is YES. Things have gotten WAY out of hand. We know there is no bottom for what has become the MAGA party. They ALL are in line and complicit with everything the orange turd says and does. There is no getting through to the MAGATS among our fellow citizens. I’ve tried. Facts don’t matter, even with clear documentation. The authoritarian has taken over and I am more fearful every day.
Agreed. I know personally some MAGA who are ramping up the incendiary rhetoric (Dems/Biden are FASCISTS/Criminals/Anti-American) and they have become more vocal on social media since Mango Mussolini’s verdict. Those that I’ve tried to have reasoned discussions with have gone further down various bizarre rabbit holes….they are truly incorrigible. And, IMHO, therefore dangerous. My vote will hopefully replace my next five months of silence towards these …deplorables, and SHOUT loudly my preference for continued improvement of our fragile union, freedoms, constitution, justice system, and democracy. When will this fascist, immoral, unintelligent danger subside? Grrrrrr…..
Good article Dean! However, don’t forget that it’s the Trump supporters, the racist morons who dictate the show. Unfortunately for the US, they’re almost half the US population. It’s the racism & the bigotry in that fraction of the public, that Trump is making good use of. They are & have been the root cause of the Trump anarchy. Trump is just the vehicle. He relies on the support of these bigoted & hateful supporters. They hate immigration, hate racial equality, hate equal opportunity, hate progress, hate, hate & hate everything non-white. They will not admit it openly though, as that will imply open racism. Their hidden racist desire for white supremacy is only executable under a leader like Trump. That’s what’s being played out since Trump’s entry in 2016. The country was always very deeply bigoted, racist & divided, but didn’t have the platform in previous administrations to openly express their racism. Trump understood this reality & is playing the game. If people create anarchy at his hearing, why should he stop them, if that helps him? We as the public are responsible for enabling him to support our ulterior racist objectives. As long as there’s racist hatred in the public, leaders like Trump will thrive. We got lucky in 2020, & sanity won the election, because more normal people voted than racists. Let’s hope that the sane folks all come out and outvote the racist bigots, because if Trump wins, this country’s true colors will be openly revealed to the world! It’s unfortunate, but the sad truth!
I was thinking about starting a GoFundMe page to fund security for the jurors in this case, but hopefully we’ll never know their names. All the judges, DAs, etc who have protection are paying for it themselves. Fani Willis told Rachel Maddow that she has had to modify her lifestyle severely to pay for security because “what other choice do I have.”
Good, let the rest of the Cockroaches come into the light -act violently - be put in jail with the rest of the maggots. No need to sugar coat it, enough is enough.
Let the MAGAts try to get violent. We sane Americans will crush them. 1) There are a lot more of us than there are of them. 2) They could never stand against the combined might of law enforcement and the U.S. military. 3) We can wipe them out and they'd never even see it coming. We have long-range weapons they don't even know about. 4) Like Trump, they talk big but can't back it up. They are bullies, and bullies are cowards. Most of them live in their mothers' basements anyway.
All good and well, I would have thought so at one time. When I saw the LEO and military members who participated in Jan 6 I had to reform my thinking. Not to say there are enough to matter, but I would not depend on anyone or thing to ride to our rescue. Not a time for complacency.
If he is put in jail… If he loses the next election… I fully expect MAGAworld will become violent. However, that violence can eventually be put down. What would be worse is not putting him in jail, allowing him to cheat in the next election, and instituting and authoritarian system, rewriting the constitution to turn us into an autocracy… Which will then require a bloody revolution to be able to reinstate freedom and democracy.
Dean, you're right the threats are real and cannot be ignored. So then perhaps it's time to start arresting people who make the threats. Start with Loomer and any of the other big names who are trying to incite the crowd. Chase down the IP addresses and phones of those who call or X the judge or the jurors. And somehow get the corporate media to act responsibly and stop giving oxygen to thugs like Cotton, Vance, Cruz, Johnson, Greene and the rest.
Even if Loomer's statement is not enough to permit an arrest, law enforcement should investigate it. Ask her what she meant? What was she expecting as a response to her statement? Was she asking for people to kill Democrats?
Most cops are MAGA
They certainly tend towards conservative, and many are Bat Sh*t MAGA Crazy. But if a prosecutor asks for further investigation, I hope they can send someone who would put a little fear of God into Loomer.
Many but not most.
It defies all logic, like Veterans being maga; after all, we are all "losers and suckers"...
Are they still Maga after January 6th? After 150 were sent to the hospital and 3 died? I’m not so sure they are staunch Magas anymore.
Isn't it a crime to communicate threats?
Is it possible that the MAGAs can successfully use AI to identify the jurors? Please for once don’t react after the threats. We were warned repeatedly before January 6 and those warnings went unheeded. Anyone threatening violence must be held accountable including the members of Congress. Who do we demand this of?
wise words Peter, but will we have to sit back and like we watch the injustice of Ukraine, and Gaza unfold before our eyes and ourselves feel powerless and then observe the worlds teeth to stop stuff like this happening, have no bite and effectively powerless...............will the post Trump stuff unfold and we be powerless, and the wisdom of your suggestions count for naught....again. And the worst outcome will become our apocalyptic reality. I hope not....but hope is a seemingly long ball play commodity these days.......it's hard to keep.
Excellent and timely ideas.
The same cult freaks screaming about Hunter Biden’s stupid nonexistent laptop say they don’t care about Donald Trump’s 34 felony convictions 🤦🏻♀️
However, keep in mind is that MAGA relies on intimidation to do 99.9% of the heavy lifting for them. If they threaten violence enough, they don’t actually have to leave their moms’ basements. I’m sure there will be a few lone wolves because it’s still a cult, but also nobody truly wants to go to prison for convicted felon Donald Trump. They’ve seen what’s happened to all of the January 6th insurrectionists who found out
You also have to wonder how bad could the blackmail be on any member of the Republican Party that they think it’ll still make them look worse than being an adjudicated rapist convicted felon. There’s already a discussion about replacing Trump before the RNC, so hopefully that’ll pick up a lot more steam very quickly.
Finally, anyone openly choosing loyalty to Donald Trump over the United States of America is more than welcome to go to prison with him
Completely agree with you. In addition to it being the year of accountability, Roevember is coming.
Keep up the good work, Dean!
Trump or Death?
Yeah, during Covid they chose Trump……haven’t heard from Herman Cain lately.
He is enjoying over cooked pizza in hell!
As Adam Serwer pointed out, remember when Sarah Huckabee Sanders went to a restaurant and they politely asked her to leave (without charging her for the appetizers she and her party had) and civility in politics was suddenly the most important issue facing the country for like a month?
I sure as F do. Now everyone who displeases Donald Trump needs private security and hey, that’s just the passionate followers of an unusual politician.
I had forgotten that, and you are absolutely right. Apparently, they only care about civility when its there own little snowflakes begining to melt.
“Fuck your feelings, not ours. We are special.”
Judge Merchan should NOT be intimidated by all the MAGA Fascist threats. Besides the jail time for the 34 felony counts, tRump should definitely do added time for his courtroom antics and disrespect. Plus, the eleventy-billion times he disregarded his gag order and his now stochastic threats of violence!! It’s PAST TIME to LOCK HIM UP! If MAGA is gonna act, better it be now and SQUASHED BIGLY, than come the election!!
Yes I wrote “eleventy-billion” and YES, I’m a “Steph Head!” A very longtime friend of the Stephanie Miller Show! Check her out LIVE mornings, from her very own basement,on Free Speech TV or on your favorite Podcast player!
Chris lavoie will never believe this!
😂
He should be arrested and put in prison now...he is inciting violence which leads to death...he already did it once...WTF is WRONG WITH OUR GOV't...WHERE IS THE FBI, THE NATIONAL GUARD SHOULD BE READY...THERE SHOULD BE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE AT VOTING AREAS
“Free speech “
When Donald was running in 2015-2016 the ask was pretty light. You had to be attracted to a glamorous billionaire and didn't care much for Hillary. And didn't care about sexual assault of women.
When Donald was running in 2019-2020, the ask was getting tougher. You had to accept his failure to follow science and overlooked a million unnecessary deaths.
Then the bribery attempt of President Zelensky. And impeachment. The ask was getting much more difficult to stomach.
His 2020 election loss led to his decision to try to steal the Executive Branch of the government. And police were attacked by his MAGA thugs and some died. Then another impeachment. The ask is getting very difficult.
The number of people (the MAGAs) willing to overlook these crimes is shrinking. While the blind loyalty testing of MAGAhood is getting more stringent. The tent is getting smaller and smaller.
Now he's a convicted felon. And a convicted business fraud. And a convicted rapist and victim defamer. The ask is getting very, very difficult to accept.
Say the core MAGA cult is 50 million adults, out of 260 million adults in the US. How many of them will commit violent acts against the government or the rational majority of citizens? They say "stand back and be ready". There are 200 million Americans who are ready to fight back.
Perhaps, like Lonesome Rhodes, Donald's ask gets too expensive, and the MAGAs evaporate back into normal society. Like the tipping point for cigarettes, eventually Donald will no longer be Cool. To anyone. So we pray.
Actually I think the magats will crawl back under the rotten logs they came out from. They might pretend to be normal, but I don't think they will change.
I so hope you are correct. I fear the alternative for all non-MAGA citizens of our Nation, and the world. 🙏🏻
🙏🙏🙏
Not on July 11th in Manhattan.
The NYPD will make that impossible.
Nothing will happen in NYC.
The answer to Dean’s question “Will Trump’s smears of the verdict and his “breaking point” language escalate those threats and even potentially lead to violence by Trump’s supporters?” we all kno is YES. Things have gotten WAY out of hand. We know there is no bottom for what has become the MAGA party. They ALL are in line and complicit with everything the orange turd says and does. There is no getting through to the MAGATS among our fellow citizens. I’ve tried. Facts don’t matter, even with clear documentation. The authoritarian has taken over and I am more fearful every day.
Agreed. I know personally some MAGA who are ramping up the incendiary rhetoric (Dems/Biden are FASCISTS/Criminals/Anti-American) and they have become more vocal on social media since Mango Mussolini’s verdict. Those that I’ve tried to have reasoned discussions with have gone further down various bizarre rabbit holes….they are truly incorrigible. And, IMHO, therefore dangerous. My vote will hopefully replace my next five months of silence towards these …deplorables, and SHOUT loudly my preference for continued improvement of our fragile union, freedoms, constitution, justice system, and democracy. When will this fascist, immoral, unintelligent danger subside? Grrrrrr…..
Most of them who bray loudly are chickenshit
Well, the commonality is shit…
I thought they were “batshit”…..👍🏻…😄
Good article Dean! However, don’t forget that it’s the Trump supporters, the racist morons who dictate the show. Unfortunately for the US, they’re almost half the US population. It’s the racism & the bigotry in that fraction of the public, that Trump is making good use of. They are & have been the root cause of the Trump anarchy. Trump is just the vehicle. He relies on the support of these bigoted & hateful supporters. They hate immigration, hate racial equality, hate equal opportunity, hate progress, hate, hate & hate everything non-white. They will not admit it openly though, as that will imply open racism. Their hidden racist desire for white supremacy is only executable under a leader like Trump. That’s what’s being played out since Trump’s entry in 2016. The country was always very deeply bigoted, racist & divided, but didn’t have the platform in previous administrations to openly express their racism. Trump understood this reality & is playing the game. If people create anarchy at his hearing, why should he stop them, if that helps him? We as the public are responsible for enabling him to support our ulterior racist objectives. As long as there’s racist hatred in the public, leaders like Trump will thrive. We got lucky in 2020, & sanity won the election, because more normal people voted than racists. Let’s hope that the sane folks all come out and outvote the racist bigots, because if Trump wins, this country’s true colors will be openly revealed to the world! It’s unfortunate, but the sad truth!
And, the mysoginy.
They are, by no means, “almost half the population”.
65 M vs 72 M…. Not that far off
There are 300 million Americans. Not even half of the American voting population.
300 M is total. Voting population is much less. Compare the 2020 results…. How many votes did Trump win vs Biden? Was the difference huge?
I couldn't agree more!
Yes, it’s a cattle call for a direct path to prison for all the Maggots. Lock ‘em up
I was thinking about starting a GoFundMe page to fund security for the jurors in this case, but hopefully we’ll never know their names. All the judges, DAs, etc who have protection are paying for it themselves. Fani Willis told Rachel Maddow that she has had to modify her lifestyle severely to pay for security because “what other choice do I have.”
Is it not true that dangerous felons are incarcerated, while the appeals are being processed? The judge should consider that option.
A condition of release coud be not re-truthing (or what ever they call it) calls for violance.
Good, let the rest of the Cockroaches come into the light -act violently - be put in jail with the rest of the maggots. No need to sugar coat it, enough is enough.
Let the MAGAts try to get violent. We sane Americans will crush them. 1) There are a lot more of us than there are of them. 2) They could never stand against the combined might of law enforcement and the U.S. military. 3) We can wipe them out and they'd never even see it coming. We have long-range weapons they don't even know about. 4) Like Trump, they talk big but can't back it up. They are bullies, and bullies are cowards. Most of them live in their mothers' basements anyway.
All good and well, I would have thought so at one time. When I saw the LEO and military members who participated in Jan 6 I had to reform my thinking. Not to say there are enough to matter, but I would not depend on anyone or thing to ride to our rescue. Not a time for complacency.
If he is put in jail… If he loses the next election… I fully expect MAGAworld will become violent. However, that violence can eventually be put down. What would be worse is not putting him in jail, allowing him to cheat in the next election, and instituting and authoritarian system, rewriting the constitution to turn us into an autocracy… Which will then require a bloody revolution to be able to reinstate freedom and democracy.