#ShadyVance also blamed fake social media for his believing his own past accurate and negative statements about trump. He is a chameleon, an empty vessel and a coward, too.
I do wonder, as a wife, what does #ShadyVance 's wife think of the ease with which he lies? They may have a highly compartmentalzed relationship, but it must give her pause unless she is in complete denial.
Vance lies like Trump, but he buries his lies in truckloads of word salad. He was finally cornered by a relentless journalist and had to ADMIT to being ready to throw the election by supporting the bogus electors list. He’s extremely slippery, but he can be pinned down.
November can't come fast enough!
Can't wait to celebrating wearing this "BYE Don" shirt 👇
You would think that would destroy him with MAGA, too! Vance always comes off like what people who hate politicians think politicians are like—slick, obfusticating, uses weasel words every chance he gets so he can't be pinned down on anything.
That was always what so many Middle Americans loved about Trump—he didn't come off as any of those things. He came off as an inveterate *liar*, but he lied about things they wanted to be true.... ::shudder!::
Vance only answered a couple of questions during the 90-minute debate. He launched off into statements/opinions/lies about other issues to burn time do he wouldn’t have to actually tell the Truth. He is as frightening and dangerous as Trump…that’s why Trump picked him. Vote Blue!
Both tfg and Vance lied through their entire debate performances. The way Vance talked about tfg made him seem like a normal candidate, and we all know that is far from the truth. His angry response to being fact checked in real time only proved his mendacity. If either Kamala Harris or Tim Walz had lied outright the way the GOP does constantly, they would have been checked unmercifully.
It was more of a comment from the moderator; but Vance did not tell the truth and only the truth. He weaseled his answers, trying to look slick and polished. He sometimes veered off topic, or fudged his answers/comments.
Even Trump supporters who believe the Big Lie that the 2020 election was stolen, are taken aback when reminded (or informed for the first time) that Trump used this same tactic in his first competitive election when he lost the 2016 Iowa Republican primary to Ted Cruz - he said the election was rigged and a fraud. https://search.app/Etz9M6YEpdVzY9VK8
I couldn't agree more that future debates need to have fact checking in real time. It is so telling that vance got angry about a statement to correct the information about the Haitiajns being here legally shows how afraid of the truth they are. I don't know how many magats watched the debate, and if they did, how many would have understood that vance's anger was wrong, but one can hope.
Surely the moderators know the Haitian community in Springfield, OH have endured far too much vitriol and that ONE fact check was needed to, hopefully, prevent any additional attacks.
I really hope it does prevent further attacks, though I won't hold my breath. Both trump and vance get stuck on things they think work with their base.
Thank you for stating the real facts! The acceptance of the Trump/Vance outrageous lies and claims is hard to believe. It’s a complete lack of the ability to analyze and discern lies from truth, and just accepting whatever garbage comes out of their mouths.
Snakes such as Djt and jDv want to make sure their toxic venom completely infuses as many subjects as possible...Any shot of anti-venomous truth diminishes and ruins their goals, especially on national display.
It’s become so difficult to read and listen to the GOP’s outrage about fact checking. It’s hard enough to listen to the lies in the first place… but for them to not just whine about being called out for lying to us - but actually use their congressional power to manufacture investigations? YES! This must be reigned in. Who besides a LIAR would object to fact checking?
Note: Vance inspired me to vote early. For the first time in my life, I voted straight ticket. Until Trump is dead and buried I'm never voting for any Republicans.
Only serial liars care about fact checking.
Yep!!
#ShadyVance also blamed fake social media for his believing his own past accurate and negative statements about trump. He is a chameleon, an empty vessel and a coward, too.
I just want you to know....
I'm stealing #ShadyVance.
I do wonder, as a wife, what does #ShadyVance 's wife think of the ease with which he lies? They may have a highly compartmentalzed relationship, but it must give her pause unless she is in complete denial.
Lying fascist pigs can now negotiate the right to broadcast insane lies, live to tens of millions of people, with no consequence.
Vance lies like Trump, but he buries his lies in truckloads of word salad. He was finally cornered by a relentless journalist and had to ADMIT to being ready to throw the election by supporting the bogus electors list. He’s extremely slippery, but he can be pinned down.
November can't come fast enough!
Can't wait to celebrating wearing this "BYE Don" shirt 👇
https://libtees-2.creator-spring.com/listing/bye-don24w
I believe things are going to go very well 🙏 Everyone will be celebrating in the streets!
You would think that would destroy him with MAGA, too! Vance always comes off like what people who hate politicians think politicians are like—slick, obfusticating, uses weasel words every chance he gets so he can't be pinned down on anything.
That was always what so many Middle Americans loved about Trump—he didn't come off as any of those things. He came off as an inveterate *liar*, but he lied about things they wanted to be true.... ::shudder!::
Vance only answered a couple of questions during the 90-minute debate. He launched off into statements/opinions/lies about other issues to burn time do he wouldn’t have to actually tell the Truth. He is as frightening and dangerous as Trump…that’s why Trump picked him. Vote Blue!
Thanks! So few outlets are pointing out that 1) Vance missed the late notice that the moderators would fact-check, and 2) he was relying on it.
So did I!
When did the notice come out? Was it in response to all those e-mails we wrote protesting no fact-checking?
Both tfg and Vance lied through their entire debate performances. The way Vance talked about tfg made him seem like a normal candidate, and we all know that is far from the truth. His angry response to being fact checked in real time only proved his mendacity. If either Kamala Harris or Tim Walz had lied outright the way the GOP does constantly, they would have been checked unmercifully.
It was more of a comment from the moderator; but Vance did not tell the truth and only the truth. He weaseled his answers, trying to look slick and polished. He sometimes veered off topic, or fudged his answers/comments.
Even Trump supporters who believe the Big Lie that the 2020 election was stolen, are taken aback when reminded (or informed for the first time) that Trump used this same tactic in his first competitive election when he lost the 2016 Iowa Republican primary to Ted Cruz - he said the election was rigged and a fraud. https://search.app/Etz9M6YEpdVzY9VK8
I couldn't agree more that future debates need to have fact checking in real time. It is so telling that vance got angry about a statement to correct the information about the Haitiajns being here legally shows how afraid of the truth they are. I don't know how many magats watched the debate, and if they did, how many would have understood that vance's anger was wrong, but one can hope.
Surely the moderators know the Haitian community in Springfield, OH have endured far too much vitriol and that ONE fact check was needed to, hopefully, prevent any additional attacks.
I really hope it does prevent further attacks, though I won't hold my breath. Both trump and vance get stuck on things they think work with their base.
Yup. The mere fact that Vance raised fact checking as an issue confirms his lack of integrity.
Thank you for stating the real facts! The acceptance of the Trump/Vance outrageous lies and claims is hard to believe. It’s a complete lack of the ability to analyze and discern lies from truth, and just accepting whatever garbage comes out of their mouths.
Snakes such as Djt and jDv want to make sure their toxic venom completely infuses as many subjects as possible...Any shot of anti-venomous truth diminishes and ruins their goals, especially on national display.
It's ridiculous there was no fact checking with Vance and trump and I wonder why.
I watched both debates but the next day, it was too late in the UK to have watched them live.
It’s become so difficult to read and listen to the GOP’s outrage about fact checking. It’s hard enough to listen to the lies in the first place… but for them to not just whine about being called out for lying to us - but actually use their congressional power to manufacture investigations? YES! This must be reigned in. Who besides a LIAR would object to fact checking?
That he got mad about being called out on his lies?
Yeah, if there's any justice that will destroy him—but probably not among MAGAts.
Note: Vance inspired me to vote early. For the first time in my life, I voted straight ticket. Until Trump is dead and buried I'm never voting for any Republicans.
And for a long time afterwards.