Trump is certainly guilty of these indictments. I worry about finding a jury in Florida that will convict him. He will do everything he can to intimidate the jurors.
It needs to be made clear this is an ESPIONAGE case - just like you put in bold. I know I've been expecting a documents case, he stole some papers...
On Ron Filipkowski twitter I heard two "spokesman" for Trump say "this is not an espionage case". I think that is the talking point that has been sent out for everyone to parrot.
It's espionage - it puts our nation at risk. It was frightening reading through the indictment.
Two things keep me up at night. The first is the idea that he could be re-elected. What has gone so horribly wrong with our society that a man like this could be the choice of millions of people to be President of the United States. (My abject horror and the depth of my despair not withstanding, if he does indeed get re-elected). The other thing is what I keep hearing with regards to the scheduling of his trial. On the one hand it is repeatedly stated that that “no one is above the law”. But then it is stated that should he be either pre or mid trial, and re-elected, this would all go away because a sitting president can’t be tried. This would squarely place him above the law. (Could he really commit murder while President and not be charged?!?) What about if he is convicted before the election, but is on the ballot and wins; then what??
I’m looking at this as hitting him with the severest charges and then letting him plea deal down to something acceptable. Having lived through the outrage of the Nixon pardon, I’m just thrilled I lived long enough to see him indicted. As much as I want to believe all the logical stuff, I’m thinking there is a wild card monkey wrench - the judge it’s been assigned to Aileen Cannon.
How on God's earth is she even still a judge, much less to get this case? This does not bode well as we've all seen she has more bias than our SCOTUS does.
I can’t believe it either, but it is what it is. At this point all she has to do is keep granting continuances and delays and we’ll be lucky if this ever goes to trial. Best wishes!
I think he should be in prison until the day he dies and should be imprisoned until he is convicted and denied bail as a flight risk and a threat to national security. That being said I’m willing to bet he won’t spend a moment in jail. He will get a plea deal where he admits he was wrong, he admits he broke the law, he admits he was lying, he admits he took a plea deal to avoid going to jail and is banned from ever running for any office again or having access to any sensitive info for any reason to include the trump presidential library (hysterical since he can’t read). We don’t sent 73 year olds to prison, especially 73 year olds that are rich and powerful.
He’s not threatened with going to jail until he dies. He doesn’t have a downside to admit he lost the election. He does have one to plea bargaining. It keeps him out of jail
Glenn. If Judge Cannon doesn’t recuse herself and #TFG chooses a trial by court, we’ve an issue. If she ignores the evidence and finds him not guilty, that’s a mountain of mess. If she rules he’s guilty, the #MAGAts will be after her. Hmm?
What is wrong with you guys making predictions about Trump? Saying would should happen is not the same as saying what will happen. These are not normal times.
I keep asking, how are Judges assigned to a case? Is it a random computer lottery draw entered into court records, a random paper number draw by a person, entered by hand by a clerk, did Cannon ask to be assigned? Was she automatically assigned due to her previous assignment on the search warrant case? In that case, why wasn’t she removed from consideration when the Appeals Court reversed her findings and removed her from further proceedings?
This was no random act. Florida messed with the system to place her as the judge just like they mess with elections. 15 judges to choose from, and this happens? No coincidence.
Trump is certainly guilty of these indictments. I worry about finding a jury in Florida that will convict him. He will do everything he can to intimidate the jurors.
30 plus counts? It would take Olympic style gymnastics to get out of all of them.
It needs to be made clear this is an ESPIONAGE case - just like you put in bold. I know I've been expecting a documents case, he stole some papers...
On Ron Filipkowski twitter I heard two "spokesman" for Trump say "this is not an espionage case". I think that is the talking point that has been sent out for everyone to parrot.
It's espionage - it puts our nation at risk. It was frightening reading through the indictment.
Exactly - we must ALL call it what it is: ESPIONAGE!!
I actually think that’s part of why they came down so hard. To incentivize a plea bargain vs going to prison for life
Could be!
Two things keep me up at night. The first is the idea that he could be re-elected. What has gone so horribly wrong with our society that a man like this could be the choice of millions of people to be President of the United States. (My abject horror and the depth of my despair not withstanding, if he does indeed get re-elected). The other thing is what I keep hearing with regards to the scheduling of his trial. On the one hand it is repeatedly stated that that “no one is above the law”. But then it is stated that should he be either pre or mid trial, and re-elected, this would all go away because a sitting president can’t be tried. This would squarely place him above the law. (Could he really commit murder while President and not be charged?!?) What about if he is convicted before the election, but is on the ballot and wins; then what??
I’m looking at this as hitting him with the severest charges and then letting him plea deal down to something acceptable. Having lived through the outrage of the Nixon pardon, I’m just thrilled I lived long enough to see him indicted. As much as I want to believe all the logical stuff, I’m thinking there is a wild card monkey wrench - the judge it’s been assigned to Aileen Cannon.
How on God's earth is she even still a judge, much less to get this case? This does not bode well as we've all seen she has more bias than our SCOTUS does.
We need to start impeaching judges that are 1. Not qualified, there were many that trump put in that the bar association said are not qualified.
2. Obviously incapable of following the law and allowing their religious views (the Texas putz) or their politics (cannon, Alito, thomas)
With 15 judges, I don’t believe it was the luck of the draw. She was purposely placed on this case.
I can’t believe it either, but it is what it is. At this point all she has to do is keep granting continuances and delays and we’ll be lucky if this ever goes to trial. Best wishes!
I think he should be in prison until the day he dies and should be imprisoned until he is convicted and denied bail as a flight risk and a threat to national security. That being said I’m willing to bet he won’t spend a moment in jail. He will get a plea deal where he admits he was wrong, he admits he broke the law, he admits he was lying, he admits he took a plea deal to avoid going to jail and is banned from ever running for any office again or having access to any sensitive info for any reason to include the trump presidential library (hysterical since he can’t read). We don’t sent 73 year olds to prison, especially 73 year olds that are rich and powerful.
Donald Trump will never admit guilt. He won’t even admit he lost the election!
He’s not threatened with going to jail until he dies. He doesn’t have a downside to admit he lost the election. He does have one to plea bargaining. It keeps him out of jail
Smith won’t agree to a plea bargain, anyway.
What if #TFG chooses trial by court?
Glenn. If Judge Cannon doesn’t recuse herself and #TFG chooses a trial by court, we’ve an issue. If she ignores the evidence and finds him not guilty, that’s a mountain of mess. If she rules he’s guilty, the #MAGAts will be after her. Hmm?
What is wrong with you guys making predictions about Trump? Saying would should happen is not the same as saying what will happen. These are not normal times.
I keep asking, how are Judges assigned to a case? Is it a random computer lottery draw entered into court records, a random paper number draw by a person, entered by hand by a clerk, did Cannon ask to be assigned? Was she automatically assigned due to her previous assignment on the search warrant case? In that case, why wasn’t she removed from consideration when the Appeals Court reversed her findings and removed her from further proceedings?
By what method and by whom was she chosen?
here u go -this explains in federal courts how judges are assigned https://www.iand.uscourts.gov/content/how-are-federal-judges-assigned-cases
This was no random act. Florida messed with the system to place her as the judge just like they mess with elections. 15 judges to choose from, and this happens? No coincidence.
Remember, this happened in Florida.