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I heard that from MSNBC about "violent rhetoric from both sides" and nearly threw my shoe at the TV!

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Let’s just stop all this crapolla and get back to serious things like Project 2025.

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WHO said that?

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Agree!! ‘Both sides’, is so not true and there ARE receipts. The Progressives really do not have any media on our Pro- Democracy side. No Billionaires on the left of center want to own a station? I am tired of being forced into supporting Fox on my cable bill .

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Dividing the country as Trump does is a recipe for disaster. Throughout history this never ends well and some groups become demonized which we can’t have in our country. It’s unsafe, unhealthy, and immoral. Nationalism divides as does Christian nationalism.

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DianaBL tell me facts about how Trump or any politician devides our country.

Plus what is “Christian Nationalism “? Why in the hell do you have to start bringing people’s spiritual beliefs into politics?

Your another reason we have fanatics hurting other people by your lies, half truths, and BS rhetoric.

I read a lot comments concerning politics and I’m amazed people can’t think for themselves. They listen to fake news, which is opinionated instead just sticking to the facts.

Bottom line DianaBL WE have all been given a free will, use it wisely. DianaBL this rant of mine here is only my opinion and nothing more. I truly wish you much happiness and peace in your life.

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Read Project 2025, google Josh Hawley Christian Nationalism as many Gop reps in our government support this thinking. I’m a student of politics and watch and read daily what is going on with our government. Trump divides us by saying immigrants are bad, or Jews are bad, or Putin is a good guy. Putin kills people he doesn’t like. Ask Alexy Navalny, oh wait you can’t cuz he already killed him. Ask Alexy’s wife who Putin is coming for next. Division is the enemy of democracy.

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DianaBL, congratulations you sure did shut Joseph down in a hurry!

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Thanks for your facts update.

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Oh- and Christian Nationalism has nothing to do with spirituality. Nothing.

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Just like MAGA has nothing to do with true patriotism.

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Joseph- Dean wrote a whole essay that explains how Trump is divisive for our nation. And if you still don’t know what Christian Nationalism is you should read more 😡

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Opinions again not facts. Opinions are like A_ _ _ _ les, every one got one Dr. Fake Smile.

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Tell us

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Thanks for putting into words what so many folks are feeling today.

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Thanks for your opinion Rose, but don’t be speaking for people that didn’t ask you to represent them. Me being one of those people.

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“so many folks”

Didn’t say anything about you.

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Just trolling.

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Thank you sharing facts instead of unsubstantiated comments; which are a large part and from the playbook of the right wing conspirators. I will never understand why what little the right wing pawns would gain from Trump and his enablers would be enough to be all in with an Autocratic Theocracy! They are literally putting all of our and their freedoms on the line to be able to proliferate Christian Nationalism, racism, misogyny, homophobia, and transphobia. How can it be worth it just for those things? Of course, there is the lure of power and control! Beware friends. “if they are coming for me in the morning, they’ll be coming for you at night!”

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The power of mythology.

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It's all a russian PsyOP, actually; started when Khrushchev declared he would "destroy [us] from the inside!" (I Remember it at the time, so don't bother saying it's fake news. SAYING it's fake news is the lie, the propaganda.) It is substantiated (but removed from the internet each time the evidence gets reposted) that when Kremlin agents started coming in (they're STILL coming in), they spread thru rural America and found the disaffected whites who had left the south for the midwest, the nazis who had escaped unnoticed, and the wealthy southerners who wanted segregation back ( all groups who were not powerful by themselves), and wove them together by talking against whoever they didn't like and against the values of democracy, and then started the NRA, the Heritage Foundation, the Council for National Policy, etc., brought in more female russian spies to con legislators, wooed the Tea Party, the Evangelicals, the militarists, and the disaffected easy-to-con (mostly lazier, dumber white men and the women who will not reject them). By themselves, these groups would/will never stick together, the infighting shows up otherwise. But Flynn and Stone and Bannon are masterful, with Nazi money behind them; and with the Kremlin (why would Putin stop the operation??), keeps putting them back together after each failure...

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Not only the right wing but the left also , get your facts straight Darrell. Stop being so one sided as well as closed minded. Look at the WHOLE political arena.

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I’m thinking Joseph is some AI troll bot y’all

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That’s why a lot of time I don’t reply because I’m not getting into an argument with a troll. It’s not worth my time.

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Without a doubt.

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Yeah, trolling "him" back. Someone is watching "his" results.

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Boy, you are either well PsyOped or, more likely, a Troll. IF you COULD see the "whole arena," you would see Far Rt oligarchs hiring hackers to set normal conservatives against the left by removing all the progressive truths and replacing them with lies against people who care about other people. Both-sides-ism IS A PSY-OP!

The Far Rt only cares about white men. They (you?) think all women and people who aren't white fascists are not actually people and should be your slaves (or sex slaves). What's sad is that the dumber non-wealthy whites will be just as much slaves, if the ChristoFascists win, as the rest of us. Unless they are cruel/insane enough to become Flynn's brownshirts. Are you?

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I'm betting on trump doubling down on violence, even after an attack on himself. Go figure. I don't understand it, I just know who he is.

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Yes, the fist pumping. Can’t unsee that. Oh the irony from the party whose leader said “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters.”

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Well, there are two fewer voters now. I wonder how many he lost during Covid.

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Are you saying Trump started Covid? With no one knowing how to deal with a pandemic ALL did the best they could. I am a survivor of having Covid twice. And now we are learning big Pharmaceuticals kept secrets about side effects. So I don’t agree with you thinking that trump caused more losses during Covid.

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Though deeply sad, it also cracks me up that lying to the less-educated (a combination of the less intelligent and the poorer) resulted in TWICE as many registered republicans dying of covid than non-GOP.

750,000 vs 325,000 by end of 2022 (NIH). They reduced the number of their own voters by 3/4 of a million!

And for those wondering who is more intelligent, only ~25% of college and post-grad students are conservative (Pew Research). That seems to be why conservatives want their kids to stay uneducated; going to school tends to expose you to fewer narcissistic/rigid/violent people and to more insightful/gentle/tolerant people, and you might become more that way yourself.

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Also, didn't tfg say if he isn't elected it's going to be a "bloodbath" for the country (paraphrasing)?

And Kevin Roberts of the Heritage Foundation claims their Project 2025 American Revolution will only be "bloodless" if the "left" submits. Threatening and pre-blaming in one phrase.

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Thank you for writing this! Violence is never acceptable, yet, one party has been spewing violence since 2016

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Is that the party you spouse to Marilynbrown?

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We are a violent country, with a violent history. With over 300 million guns (and growing) we supply not only our local gun owners, legitimate US armed forces, radical domestic militias, and overseas criminality with the sheer number of firearms made and/or sold every day. It might one day be our undoing with a fascist, national socialist like Trump in charge again.

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Trump is no socialist! Good gosh how did that political term get so skewed in US political discourse

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National Socialist Workers Party (NSDAP in German) is the Nazi Party

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European Socialism is a completely different thing that the way the Nazi Party adopted that term. It is similar to Donald Trump and the GOP calling what they stand for Democracy

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Yes.Socialism is basically what the Scandinavian countries have today. Terribly distorted by Hitler.

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Feels like there are some terms that are important to claim back u know?…

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I like Social Democracy - where Social is the adjective broadening the scope of Democracy (rule by the people) to include the common sense of doing some things together for the good of all, like roads and utilities, schools and libraries and fire departments, and proper police departments and judicial systems to protect all from bullies and tyrants.

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"National Socialism" is too tainted to ever claim back. Besides, everyone (should) knows it meant, "socialism for people of Aryan nationality." The only way to claim back those words is to forget or erase history. That is some serious 1984 shit; the extremist right is already attempting that with book bans and attacks on education.

Just leave "national socialism" to the history books. It is too tainted.

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Words words words. I do not believe we can claim back words from those that choose to use them to foment duplicitous hate and division.

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Let’s keep it simple. If you mean the Nazi Party, say the Nazi Party. People know what that means.

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No. He is a Nazi.

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Did You hear anything about gun reform. Me neither. I agree with you the BS (both sides isms) is nauseating and dangerous broadcast journalism

The interviews from trump rally eyewitnesses have people processing what they witnessed- a traumatic event — has been shown us the values and inability

Mayor of Butler blamed Democratic rhetoric of calling trump cult following authoritarians. Then there was an average Jim Bob — I kid you not, rotten green teeth trump fan - who is shell shocked, who cannot believe this happened and blamed democrats. There is no cogent or critical analysis that the rhetoric unleashed by project 2025 and the SCOTUS rulings and Trump himself has anything to do with this violence. They are incapable of seeing fault with the would be dictator. The one who is seeking retribution for the lack of total submittal to his edicts.

I always heard the average reader has a 5th grade reading level, which has obvious repercussions that includes the ability of thinking through the extremism rhetoric even when if it means they could have been harmed by being in attendance and around all the escalating violent threats of a convicted criminal .

None of those interviewed mentioned gun reform, the reporters didn’t even ask.

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Yes unfortunately the average person has a fifth grade reading level. What that means is if you want to communicate in an inclusive manner with the goal of organizing people, use words and concepts they understand. I don’t mean “dumb it down,” which is condescending and classist. That makes people feel stupid. Just talk to people where they are.

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And then...this is why I've put a pause on Corporate Media ! You've summed It up perfectly, Dean. People are getting manipulated by not just Fox channel, but MSNBC, CNN etc. Again I Say; thank you for the Facts and the Truth,Dean🙏 Along with all of the progressive journalist who, 24-7 bring the truth to bare. I too do not condone political violence and what happened to trump is unfortunate. You can't keep banging the drums for violence without repercussions. I guarantee,Donald will be using this to gin up his base into a hate filled frenzy. Will be watching the RNC convention with something soft and fuzzy to hold on to when he announces next week.🔥💙🇺🇸

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Both CNN and MSNBC had their Over-parent companies bought in the last 2 years by Far Rt Oligarchs. Like NYT and WaPo. The rank and file are resisting, but more and more propaganda is filtering in.

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Now that violence was directed at Trump, will he be able to comprehend that violence is not acceptable? I'm betting he will not. I'm betting that he will continue the way he's going. Let us not forget that Trump's advocacy of violence on J6 resulted in the killing of many.

A bipartisan Senate report found that ayt least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack on America. Not to mention that Trump's Insurrection resulted in capital police getting bledgeoned and the shit beat out of them as well as getting shocked to to death.

It's unfortunate if this young man (who looks like he's 12 years old) decided to take violence into his own hands. He was a registered Republican.

That doesn't change the fact that Trump is an evil human being, and hell bent on destroying democracy and America -- should Trump have the reins to power again, millions will suffer at the hands of Donald J Trump.

I don't think his attempted assassination will change him in any way. Will he still work to become a dictator, to incarcerate millions of people, to literally destroy freedom of the press. The attention assassination may only work to empower him.

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i think the violence and whatever the truth is around it......will be interpreted by the narcisist as affirmation that he exists and that he is vital, up there with JFK et al. There is still something weird about all this..............like the crowd behind tRump looking more like spectators that people fearing for their lives........with bullets flying.....the more I see it on the media......the more it looks like a performance.............no if it was real it won't change him, evrything as we see with fist pumps and rant words.....everything is interpreted thru his narcisist lense of me me me.

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Yes,it is McKinley. That whole scene, like you said. I kept asking questions: didn’t someone get hit with the bullet that grazed Trumps ear? And the way that Trump resisted when the secret service was trying to protect him with their own bodies. “Let me get my photo shot!”, Trump seemed to say. Just surreal. And many in the crowd giving middle fingers to the camera; like everything has to be a fight.

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yes, agree totally. now having any reasonably cynicism will have us branded haters and contributing to the problem. I too wonder about the bullets, where are they and do they match the shooters gun. There is a guy behind Trump in a big black vest .....his actions just seem like bad acting. Not being an American, and aware of the meddling in the world with governments and the fall of despots......and the way the media and the worlds notables are wishing trump the despot well........the convicted criminal.................i and sorry to say this, I have absolutely no belief that we will know the real truth about this. It will be what it is, the election will be what it is.........but somewhere in there someone is controling the narrative. And it doesn't reek of truth.

It's all a game of cards, in a house of cards, a game of thrones........I don't know why I care. It's a severe distraction from existence, living creatively and living each day......which takes enough energy of its own, and knowing compared to many on the earth....like Gaza and Ukraine, where the violence isnt decried with the same vigour............compared to those places, I am wealthy beyond measure. I can control my existence to some measure.

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And making money off of the tshirts he’s selling from yesterday’s horrible event.I would have thought at least one of them would say let’s go to church today to thank Gd for saving plump Trump

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Do you follow God on Substack? He said he had nothing to do with it. 😁

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he/she is very very cool........

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S/he.

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Thank God? Yahweh? The god that ordered killing all who offended him by not worshipping him?

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Yes, but we can do without 'creative' blasphemy.

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these times, Maga and followers are blasphemy.

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They do seem intent on acting against "Love one another"

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Perhaps I'd be richer as a farmer with the apparently unlimited supply of big steaming piles of bovine AND equine biosolids. Instead, I'm an underpaid paid public servant working to protect public health, safety, and welfare. And I love it--public service is the best! :)

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PS, thank you for being a public servant, 99.9% of public servants, local, state, and federal, that I have dealt with have been super helpful and good at what they do.

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“Bovine and equine biosolids” 😆🤣😂😂😂

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Thanks very much. Isn't language a wonderful resource? Heh

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My favorite!

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Interesting that Trump wants to defund and gut the FBI that is investigating the shooting.

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Never forget January 6th‼️ Trump did nothing about the assault on our capital, killing Capital Police and the threats towards Nancy Pelosi, and Vice President Pense,

for 187 minutes as he watched the events of violence on the TV in the White House.

📍He called the January 6th rioters “patriots”.

📍He called the Charlotte Nazi thugs “very fine people”.

‼️TRUMP’S CULPABILITY for the attempt on his life,

and his constant encouraging, inviting and condoning acts of violence towards others has been well documented for years.

‼️He has encouraged harm towards his political opponents, judges and their families, witnesses,

Poll workers, and anyone suing him for his criminal actions, his assaults, and his conduct in putting our nation at risk in many ways.

📍They have all received death threats due to Trump’s constant violent rhetoric.

Daily, Trump oencourages violence toward Democrats, people of

color, and people who have taken him to court for his sexual assaults and illegal activity. This has been

evident for years !

‼️Don’t forget that Trump promised a blood bath if he loses another election.

‼️Don’t forget that Trump embraces violent autocrats from Hungary, China and Russia.

‼️THE VERY IDEA THAT REPUGS ARE TRYING TO SAY THAT BIDEN SHOULD ALSO DIAL BACK “THE RHETORIC” IS DISGUSTING‼️.

‼️President Biden and

VP Harris have only pointed out Trump’s illegal activities and constant violent rhetoric! They have never called for violence and made false accusations like Trump❗️

Team MAGA is pathetically milking this event in every way.

‼️Their Project 2025 is filled with plans to destroy our Democracy, round up non citizens to deport, and separate families again.

📍The 900 page manifesto is authored by Religious Nationslists who will remove all freedom of other religions. It will remove all programs and civil servants who have worked to protect our country.

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Sadly, corporate media profits off maga gop's violent rhetoric instead of calling it out.

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